Ross Socoloff once said that the way to make a small fortune in the fish
business is to start with a large fortune....
Nick Zarlinga
"If we ignore nature.....maybe it'll go away."
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. C." <hillbillynursery-in-yahoo.com>
To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- California Natives - They're All Threatened or
Endangered
> Hi Jerry,
>
> I have been trying to catch/find a fish locally that
> is endangered. My reason is I want to raise them in
> aquaria for rerelease. According to my local wildlife
> people they are extinct in my county. But I think I
> caught one a few years back. If I can prove they are
> still here and show a high quality fish room the state
> will allow me to raise them in aquaria. I am not a
> native fish buff like alot of the people on this list.
> But I am a killifish nut and there are alot of native
> killifish that I would like to keep.
>
> I think I made one person upset with me because I am
> trying to catch and photograph and endangered fish
> good enough to prove they are still here. After you
> give the state photo proof they will send in the group
> over this fish(currently in Chattanooga and near
> Knoxville) to try and catch some of the fish for
> breeding in aquariums to release. They do let the
> public raise the fish for them. But I think what gets
> under alot of peoples dander about this is you are
> removing some of the few that are in the wild to begin
> the process. Right now the conservation effort has a
> few different locations. I just want this area better
> protected. I want the cattle fenced out. The cattle do
> not need to get to the spring pool. They has access to
> the whole river(which I understand in not good for the
> river either). Very little of the vegatation that used
> to be in this pool is still there. I went back to this
> pool to get an aquatic plant I had in my tanks years
> ago to find it no longer there when I started getting
> back into fish(college stopped my hobby, wife and kids
> kept me from getting back into it sooner).
>
> I am awaiting a settlement for a back injury. I
> plan on building a house with a full basement. The
> basement is going to be one large fish room. The
> property has a 35 X 80 barn which part of will be used
> in warm weather for fish. I also plan to have 10 500
> gallon concrete tanks outside for summer use. Alot of
> people say I am nuts but I used to make alot of
> spending cash from a few 10 gallon tanks inside and
> about 15 cast iron bath tubs out in the woods. My idea
> is to raise tropical aquarium fish for proffit.
>
> BTW marbles are the best substrate for some fish.
> The eggs slide off the round structure of the marble
> and get down so the adults can not eat the eggs. When
> raising barbs I used tanks with 3 marbles deep as the
> substrate with a corner air suplied box filter. These
> tanks did get did get regular water changes and the
> adults were not in them very long-in-a time. I hate
> the bright colored fixtures like your pink castle
> quote. My wife has a bright pink/green/blue cave thing
> in the kids goldfish tank. The sunken ship with a
> bubble opening chest can look cool if in the right
> tank, but my tanks are drift wood and alot of aquarium
> plants with pea gravel as my substrate. Most of my
> killifish breeding tanks are bare except for the
> breeding mop or container of peat moss for deposit of
> eggs with no filtration(killifish in general do not
> like water movement). With no filtration I am doing
> 30% water changes every 2 days on 10 gallon tanks with
> 2 to 6 guppy sized fish in them.
>
> So do not let a few people puffing up-in-you for
> wanting to do this stop you. If they will not listen
> to reason that you are really looking out for the
> fishes well being just walk away or delete the emails.
>
> Later, John TN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Like I said before, I have had 15 years experience
> > in keeping fish from
> > marine reefs to Amazon biotope tanks. I can speak
> > pH, turbidity,
> > salinity, ammonium ion concentrations, ion exchange,
> > and CO2 gradients
> > across gill membranes with anyone here. I only
> > mention that to dispel
> > any fear that I might be some guy who saw a picture
> > of a "cool"
> > endangered fish and want to put it in his 10 gallon
> > tank with the pink
> > castle and air-operated pirate chest (don't forget
> > the marbles for
> > substrate).
> http://mail.yahoo.com
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