Re: NANFA-L-- Interesting news article

dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:33:55 -0500

Help me out a little. Koi are carp, _Cyprinus carpio_. Has this fish
only now become a problem in Maine? Why the new law? Is the fish any
worse in its Koi form than in its more typical wild form? Are Koi a
source of pathogens for wild fish (other than carp)? What do Koi do
in the wild. Do they revert in a short number of generations to wild
type carp?

Just trying to understand.

Dave

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Stallsmith <fundulus-in-hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:02 am
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Interesting news article
> My sympathy for this guy went way down when I read-in-the end of
> the article
> that he replaced the koi with red parrots; that's going from bad
> to truly
> goofy. But that's just me, I guess.
>
> After seeing koi in various streams around Alabama, the Maine law
> seems like
> a reasonable attempt to slow down this form of habitat degradation.
>
> --Bruce Stallsmith
> no red parrots yet in the Tennessee
> Huntsville, AL, US of A
>
> >From: "Brian J. Torreano" <headdarter-in-btdarters.com>
> >Reply-To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> >To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> >Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Interesting news article
> >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:06:53 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >Derek,
> > You are 100% correct! It is indeed unconstituional for
> someone to be
> >busted for an action that was not illegal-in-the time they performed
> >said action. Laws that make previously-committed actions illegal
are
> >called "ex post facto" laws. Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S.
> >Constitution says that, "No Bill of Attainder or EX POST FACTO Law
> >shall be passed". So what the restaurant owner did was not illegal!
> >In fact it's not illegal because he DIDN'T do anything. The article
> >says that, "The koi had been on display since Ly opened the
> >restaurant NEARLY 15 YEARS AGO..", and, "A FEW YEARS AGO, however,
> >Maine outlawed the importation and possession of koi..". Because Ly
> >imported and possessed the fish BEFORE the law went into effect, he
> >was not breaking the law by continuing to own the fish. The
> >officials who busted Ly should hope and pray that he doesn't take
> >them to court, because he would CLEARLY win on this one!
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >Brian J. Torreano - Owner
> >BTDarters
> >Your on-line resource for American Darters and other native fish
> for the
> >small to medium-sized aquarium!
> >Web: http://www.btdarters.com
> >Phone: (262) 268-7489
> >
> > >From: Derek Parr <derekparr-in-earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> > >To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> > >Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Interesting news article
> > >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:36:49 -0400
> > >
> > >i was always under the impression that it was unconstitutional
> to bust
> > >someone for doing something they did before the law against it
> was
> >created.
> > > Not that anyone cares about that outdated piece of paper any
> more.> >
> > >yet another example of the evils of self-righteousness I guess.
> > >
> > >-derek parr
> > >chapel hill, nc
> > >
> > >
> > >Bill Flowers wrote:
> >
> >>http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?
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