RE: NANFA-L-- Arkansas Convention

Mike's bigred e-mail (mbesser1-in-bigred.unl.edu)
Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:49:31 -0500

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Mark -


...one of those weird carp species that has the large

mouth and the eye way down low on the head (grass or bighead I'm thinking)


It was most likely a bighead. Yep - they are pretty strange-looking. One
of my colleagues here-in-UNL makes fish head soup with them. In former days
when I worked for NE G&P, we would get HUGE bigheads in our backwater frame
nets. Fortunately, they don't seem to have gotten above Gavins Point yet
(at least not to my knowledge).


Mysteryman -


Yankton..isn't that where an alleged pirahna was caught several days ago?

has that been confirmed, or was it just another Pacu? If I recall

correctly, the size of the fish was mighty big for a non-pacu.


I saw one pic and it doesn't look nearly as large as reported. I'm sure
it's a piranha. We have a few in our lab that are as big as the one in the
pic. It's created a minor buzz among the local fishing community. And now
for your entertainment, here's a post from one of the local (NE) fishing
lists:


"To whoever is releasing piranha into public waters: could you add some
peacock bass as well. I can't afford the trip to South America."


Mike


Michael L. Bessert

University of Nebraska

Lincoln, NE 68588-0118



Michael L. Bessert

324 Manter Hall

School of Biological Sciences

University of Nebraska

Lincoln, NE 68588-0118

ph. 402-472-3999



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Mysteryman
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Arkansas Convention


Mark Otnes wrote:


>

> I stopped-in-Gavin's Point Dam on the Missouri River just west of

> Yankton, South Dakota and saw four dead paddlefish there. There was

> also a dead freshwater drum and I one of those weird carp species that

> has the large mouth and the eye way down low on the head (grass or

> bighead I'm thinking).



Yankton..isn't that where an alleged pirahna was caught several days ago?

has that been confirmed, or was it just another Pacu? If I recall

correctly, the size of the fish was mighty big for a non-pacu.

4 dead paddlefish..bummer.


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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>...one of those weird carp species =
that has
the large <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>mouth and the eye way down low on =
the head
(grass or bighead I'm thinking)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>It was most likely a bighead.&nbsp; Yep - they are pretty
strange-looking.&nbsp; One of my colleagues here-in-UNL makes fish head =
soup
with them.&nbsp; In former days when I worked for NE G&amp;P, we would =
get HUGE
bigheads in our backwater frame nets.&nbsp; Fortunately, they =
don&#8217;t seem
to have gotten above Gavins Point yet (at least not to my =
knowledge).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Yankton..isn't that where an =
alleged
pirahna was caught several days ago?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>has that been confirmed, or was it =
just
another Pacu? If I recall <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>correctly, the size of the fish =
was mighty
big for a non-pacu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>I saw one pic and it doesn&#8217;t look nearly as large as
reported.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a piranha.&nbsp; We have a few =
in our
lab that are as big as the one in the pic.&nbsp; It&#8217;s created a =
minor
buzz among the local fishing community.&nbsp; And now for your =
entertainment,
here&#8217;s a post from one of the local (NE) fishing =
lists:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>&#8220;To =
whoever is
releasing piranha into public waters: could you add some peacock bass as =
well.
I can't afford the trip to <st1:place w:st=3D"on">South =
America</st1:place>.&#8221;</span></font><font
color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<st1:State w:st=3D"on">NE</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode =
w:st=3D"on">68588-0118</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>Michael L. Bessert<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>324 Manter Hall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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of <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Biological</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> =
Sciences<o:p></o:p></p>

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of <st1:PlaceName =
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<st1:State w:st=3D"on">NE</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org [owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org] On Behalf =
Of Mysteryman<br>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM<br>
To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org<br>
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Arkansas</st1:place></st1:State>
Convention</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Mark Otnes wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; I stopped-in-Gavin's Point Dam on the <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Missouri
River</st1:place> just west of <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Yankton</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st=3D"on">South Dakota</st1:State></st1:place> and saw four dead =
paddlefish
there.&nbsp; There was <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; also a dead freshwater drum and I one of those weird carp =
species
that <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; has the large mouth and the eye way down low on the head =
(grass or
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; bighead I'm thinking).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Yankton..isn't that where an alleged pirahna was caught several =
days
ago?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>has that been confirmed, or was it just another Pacu? If I =
recall <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>correctly, the size of the fish was mighty big for a =
non-pacu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>4 dead paddlefish..bummer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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