NANFA Mailing List Archive: RE: NANFA-L-- "Reefle" (tm) photos and movies

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Thanks guys :)
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I wanted to add another trophic level to the system, and perhaps a whole =
other hub on the food web, but wanted to do it with something that only =
"could be" a fish predator, but not so much "would be" a fish predator. =

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Actually, it was far more juvenile and brainless than that initially... =
I wanted to see if grass pickerel were gape limited on squishy things, =
since tadpoles so frequently occur in their habitat. Pickerel are, so =
now I have a frog. ;) It just so happens that it's worked out so far =
that the frog hangs out and basks under the light, which people think is =
cute, and makes a decent living off a mysis and krill diet. =20
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Speaking of other critters I've found can be kept along with the fish... =
(well, in my heavy feeding schema anyway)
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I'm excited now that it's May and the White River crayfish (Procambarus =
acutus) will emerge in the ditches and we can see how they handle this =
much territory. They smaller ones seem to be fairly gregarious for =
crayfish, having kept 3 in a 30 gallon for about a year without them =
killing each other (which finally they fought and killed each other), =
and never bothered the fish druing their tenure. I'm interested to see =
how they do in such a big tank, if I threw a six pack in. =20
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This is also the nice thing having a bunch of 10 gallon tanks laying =
around, ready for anything, since they have sandbeds and plants, and =
only require an airstone, and that's all that's necessary. If some =
experiment with a new community member goes awry, I can still maintain =
the critter. Obviously isn't going to hold a Nile perch... But MR. =
Nasty, for example, the macrochirus x cyanellus hybrid seems just dandy =
with his new house for now. He's a real pussy cat on nightcrawlers and =
krill. I'm going to try and move a large digger crayfish (Fallicambarus =
fodiens) in with him, and a smaller sized Teays River crayfish (Cambarus =
sciotensis) in with the northern longear I'm going to quarantine and =
keep from the whirling tank. Makes it all a little more fun :)
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I'm also convinced that Corbicula can be successfully kept soley in =
deposit feeding scenarios, and make a great addition to an over =
productive system (they seem to filter too). I've got a dozen or so =
that were thrown in-in-the inception of the tank a year ago and they've =
got nice glossy edges on their valves (which I don't know if that's good =
or bad because they're not taking a rest period) and relict valves have =
yet to turn up when I get in there and dig around for them. I've also =
got some that have been going for a year and a half in an unmaintained =
10 gallon. Little suckers really crawl around too. Might even be some =
experiments in there down the road. Or even a permit request to keep =
some cylindrical papershells and move into the National Unionid League =
;)
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Todd
The Madness (tm)
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From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org on behalf of Tom Watson
Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 8:36 PM
To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- "Reefle" (tm) photos and movies

I'll second that. How does the frog fit into the ecosystem?
Tom
West Hyblos Creek Drainage
Washington State

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Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- "Reefle" (tm) photos and movies

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I wanted to add another = trophic level to =0A= the system, and perhaps a whole other hub on the food web, but = wanted =0A= to do it with something that only "could be" a fish predator, but not so = much =0A= "would be" a fish predator.

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Actually, it = was far more =0A= juvenile and brainless than that initially... I wanted to see if grass = pickerel =0A= were gape limited on squishy things, since tadpoles so frequently occur = in their =0A= habitat. Pickerel are, so now I have a frog. ;) It = just so =0A= happens that it's worked out so far that the frog hangs out and basks = under the =0A= light, which people think is cute, and makes a decent living off a mysis = and =0A= krill diet.

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Speaking of other critters = I've found can =0A= be kept along with the fish... (well, in my heavy feeding schema =0A= anyway)

=0A=

I'm excited now that it's May = and the White =0A= River crayfish (Procambarus acutus) will emerge in the = ditches and =0A= we can see how they handle this much territory. They smaller ones = seem to =0A= be fairly gregarious for crayfish, having kept 3 in a 30 gallon for = about a year =0A= without them killing each other (which finally they fought and killed = each =0A= other), and never bothered the fish druing their tenure. I'm = interested to =0A= see how they do in such a big tank, if I threw a six pack in. =0A=

=0A=

This is also the nice thing = having a bunch =0A= of 10 gallon tanks laying around, ready for anything, since they have = sandbeds =0A= and plants, and only require an airstone, and that's all that's =0A= necessary. If some experiment with a new community member goes = awry, I can =0A= still maintain the critter. Obviously isn't going to hold a Nile = perch... =0A= But MR. Nasty, for example, the macrochirus x cyanellus hybrid seems = just dandy =0A= with his new house for now. He's a real pussy cat on nightcrawlers = and =0A= krill. I'm going to try and move a large digger crayfish = (Fallicambarus =0A= fodiens) in with him, and a smaller sized Teays = River =0A= crayfish (Cambarus sciotensis) in with the northern longear I'm = going =0A= to quarantine and keep from the whirling tank. Makes it all a = little more =0A= fun :)

=0A=

I'm also convinced that = Corbicula =0A= can be successfully kept soley in deposit feeding scenarios, and = make a =0A= great addition to an over productive system (they seem to filter = too). =0A= I've got a dozen or so that were thrown in-in-the inception of the tank = a year =0A= ago and they've got nice glossy edges on their valves (which I don't = know if =0A= that's good or bad because they're not taking a rest period) and relict = valves =0A= have yet to turn up when I get in there and dig around for them. = I've also =0A= got some that have been going for a year and a half in an unmaintained = 10 =0A= gallon. Little suckers really crawl around too. Might even = be some =0A= experiments in there down the road. Or even a permit request to = keep some =0A= cylindrical papershells and move into the National Unionid = League =0A= ;)