Re: NANFA-L-- Re: Chinese Sturgeon on AquaBid

njz (njz-in-clevelandmetroparks.com)
Wed, 10 May 2006 21:28:05 -0400

And by the way, I heard that this guy was also selling a mola mola (ocean
sunfish) last year. If you are not familiar with this kind of fish, it is
more ludicrous to attempt to keep in an aquarium than a sturgeon that gets
to be 15ft long. I understand that he did recommend a big tank for it
though. I guess it shows he cares....

Nick Zarlinga
Aquarium Biologist
Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
216-661-6500

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From: "Dustin Smith" <dsmith73-in-hotmail.com>
To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- Re: Chinese Sturgeon on AquaBid

> Thanks Nick. I totally agree with what you have stated.
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> Dustin Smith
> Lexington, SC
> At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
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> From: njz-in-clevelandmetroparks.com
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> To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- Re: Chinese Sturgeon on AquaBid
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT)
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> Dustin, the thing that got me on this was that there is no reasonable way
> for anyone to be able to humanely keep this fish for any length of time.
> The fact that an animal is considered endangered or not does factor into
> it, however that is just a designation that is often times nebulous and
> arguable in many cases. What is not arguable is that this animal will
> outgrow virtually any system that a hobbyist can have. I get calls all
> the time from people trying to find a good home for their overgrown fish.
> Some I can accept but most I do not. So when I see a person selling such
> a unique animal, coupled with the fact that the seller is using the fact
> that it is rare and endangered, along with the fact that it is illegal to
> posess an endangered species with out the proper permits, that will push
> my button every time. The other species that you and others have
> mentioned are perfectly suited to being kept in average size enclosures.
> If there is some legal way for them to be kept by hobbyists, then I have
> no issues with it.
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> And for those interested, the USFW usually does not destroy animals that
> are confiscated. Often times they do work with public aquariums to try to
> find suitable houseing for the animal. Often times there are too many
> animals in a shipment for institutions to accept and some of the animals
> do get destroyed. I strongly suspect that if this animal were to be
> confiscated, it would end up in a suitable institution.
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> Nick Zarlinga
> Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
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> > ""I believe that if your intent was to "impersonate" a US Customs
Agent,
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> > go to jail for that.""
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> > I had not commented on this earlier but Michael makes a very good
point.
> > Which is worse here, the selling of a somewhat suspect fish that may or
> > may
> > not be the fish that is is purported to be or impersonating a federal
law
> > enforcement agent. I can tell you which one would garner the larger
fine
> > and most jail time and it has nothing to do with fish. I believe that
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> > USF&WS have been contacted then they can handle things as they see fit.
> > There is no need for this type of behavior.
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> > Again, I am curious as to why this fish has pushed so many people's
> > buttons
> > when so many fish with a similar status are sold every day and never a
> > peep
> > before?
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