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Bill Flowers
Todd Crail wrote:
>Another thought... Conduit is _going_ to be too thin. I'd use black steel
>pipe that's used for gas lines (or if you want a rust free solution, spend a
>bit more and go with galvanized for water). It's going to cost a bit more,
>but then you can have the advantage of threaded fittings and unbendable
>lines.
>
>Really, it'll cost less, because you'll be wasting your money on the conduit
>and have to use something else anyway ;)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
>To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:38 PM
>Subject: Re: NANFA-- Building cheap fish containers
>
>
>
>
>>I'll check Monday at work to see if we can even order anything like that.
>>We do have the 3 way PVC fittings that Rob mentioned.
>>
>>Here's how Tropicorium (a coral farm and LFS) solved the issue:
>>http://www.tropicorium.com/low_tide_2.html
>>
>>These tanks are 3.5' tall, consist of block, angle braces on double 2x6's
>>and a 60 mil tarp drapped over it. The garden hoses I think help keep it
>>from bowing. The tanks are about 8'x16'... A lot of bang for the buck.
>>
>>They're in Romulus Michigan which is only about 40 minutes from here.
>>
>>
>Maybe
>
>
>>we can day trip up there sometime and look at all the corally goodness :)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Denkhaus, Robert" <Robert.Denkhaus_at_fortworthgov.org>
>>To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:16 PM
>>Subject: RE: NANFA-- Building cheap fish containers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Mark,
>>>
>>>To the best of my knowledge the only 3-way 90 degree fittings that are
>>>available are PVC. These fittings are made for making PVC lawn
>>>
>>>
>furniture
>
>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>are a bit thicker and stiffer than normal PVC fittings (Schedule 20 and
>>>Schedule 40). The problem is that they are also more expensive than
>>>
>>>
>>normal
>>
>>
>>>fittings and not as strong as metal. The strength issue could be solved
>>>
>>>
>>by
>>
>>
>>>filling the entire frame structure with cement and letting it set up. I
>>>
>>>
>>would
>>
>>
>>>recommend using mortar mix so that you won't have gravel in the mix.
>>>
>>>
>You
>
>
>>>could also add a bit of strength by slipping pieces of rebar into the
>>>
>>>
>>pipes
>>
>>
>>>before assembly.
>>>
>>>Another suggestion that I just thought of...since it appears that you
>>>
>>>
>>aren't
>>
>>
>>>looking to create anything that is very deep and won't have a lot of
>>>
>>>
>>pressure
>>
>>
>>>pushing outward...you could just use rebar for your frame. Assuming
>>>
>>>
>that
>
>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>don't have access to a welder, the frame could be constructed using wire
>>>
>>>
>>ties
>>
>>
>>>like those that are used to tie steel together when pouring concrete
>>>
>>>
>>footers
>>
>>
>>>and such. If you made a prototype that was wired together and liked it,
>>>
>>>
>>it
>>
>>
>>>may be worth finding someone to weld future ones together for you. To
>>>
>>>
>>keep
>>
>>
>>>the abrasive surface of the rebar from cutting the liner material, the
>>>
>>>
>>rebar
>>
>>
>>>could be wrapped in pipe insulation (the cylindrical stuff with a slit
>>>
>>>
>>down
>>
>>
>>>the length) and then wrapped in duct tape. Not pretty but fairly cheap
>>>
>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>functional I would think.
>>>
>>>Rob Denkhaus
>>>Fort Worth Nature Center & Refuge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Mark
>>>>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:38 PM
>>>>To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
>>>>Subject: NANFA-- Building cheap fish containers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I haven't read the list today, so I don't know if I'm missing
>>>>anything recent, but I want to run this by all these smart and
>>>>creative people while I'm thinking about it:
>>>>
>>>>I set up a kiddie pool last night I had bought earlier to use as a
>>>>backyard fish container. It's a pastic canvas model with steel pipe
>>>>supports. Looks like it was made in Brazil. I'm going to look into
>>>>the cost of replicating this design with steel electical conduit and
>>>>fittings, if I can find the pieces I need. Then throw some cheap
>>>>liner material over it. I want to try this as a design for a
>>>>raceway/mini-riffle for breeding darters and madtoms. Any good ideas
>>>>for corner fittings to assemble lengths of steel conduit pipe into a
>>>>box-shaped frame? I suppose iron plumbing pipe would work, but it
>>>>has to be much more expensive than the conduit. I need a corner
>>>>fitting that will accept conduit pipe at 90 degrees in three
>>>>directions. In other words, two pipes for the horizontal supports
>>>>and one pipe for the vertical support (and one of these assemblies
>>>>for each corner of the pool). Alternatively, I could use 90 degree
>>>>couplings, and then use "T" couplings nearby for the verticals. Does
>>>>that make sense? Any ideas about what I can use for these couplings?
>>>>Maybe these are common parts and I just need to go to the hardware
>>>>store? Thanks!
>>>>--
>>>>Mark
>>>>Ohio
>>>>USA
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