-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Crail
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:05 PM
To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Speckled Chub fish
It might be better to just suggest going to "your state's Department of
Natural Resources website" than asking what state. Even make suggestions on
how to google that stuff... That might be excellent standard copy you can
pass along. Like say:
Go to http://www.google.com
Search by "[your state] department natural resources area service fish"
Search by "[species name] [common name]"
etc.
Reading it again, the sentences with "state" and "members" were back to
back, and my mind merged them. I hate it that we even have to think about
things like that, but we do. When I'm at schools, there's _always_ another
adult around.
I may be a creepy fish guy, but I don't need to get branded that type of
"creepy"! :)
Again, this is absolutely no criticism! I just saw it and though "hmmmmm...
maybe we should talk a little about this." :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Zarlinga" <njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: NANFA-- RE: Speckled Chub fish
> Good points, and that was why I only asked which state she was from so
that
> if someone had a biologist contact, she could contact them. Do you still
> think that I asked too much info? I didn't think that I suggested that
> NANFA members get involved in any other way than though the list server.
> Help me, this is important!
>
> Nick Zarlinga
> Aquarium Biologist
> Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
> 216.661.6500 ext 4485
>
>
> ><)> -----Original Message-----
> ><)> From: owner-nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> ><)> On Behalf
> ><)> Of Todd Crail
> ><)> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:33 PM
> ><)> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> ><)> Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Speckled Chub fish
> ><)>
> ><)>
> ><)> FWIW You might want to keep this electronic and
> ><)> not suggest kids get
> ><)> involved with NANFA members or asking any
> ><)> information about where they live
> ><)> besides what they've already volunteered. There's
> ><)> plenty of information on
> ><)> the Internet, and from our collective group here
> ><)> on the list, that we
> ><)> shouldn't open ourselves to that kind of
> ><)> liability. I certainly hope this
> ><)> would never come out as the case... But I think we
> ><)> need to recognize that
> ><)> this does have some open ends, and it gives me
> ><)> chills as a Board Member ;)
> ><)>
> ><)> Otherwise, you're doing a fabulous job Nick! Keep
> ><)> up the great work :)
> ><)>
> ><)> And I think everyone should read this, and is why
> ><)> I've sent it to the
> ><)> general list... As you all may not have thought
> ><)> about how quickly someone
> ><)> can get into trouble with an accusation, and not
> ><)> open themselves to
> ><)> liability. Really, we should think about some
> ><)> code of conduct when dealing
> ><)> with youngsters and what "policy" is.
> ><)>
> ><)> This was presented to me in a very real fashion
> ><)> years back when my buddy was
> ><)> a nanny. One of the kids wanted ice cream and he
> ><)> was told "No, you haven't
> ><)> behaved well today." The kid brazenly told him
> ><)> he'd tell his Mom my friend
> ><)> sexually abused him if he didn't give him the ice cream.
> ><)>
> ><)> I don't want to see anyone's well being
> ><)> compromised... The kids or the
> ><)> adults.
> ><)>
> ><)> And no... You don't have to forward this to our
> ><)> young researcher ;)
> ><)>
> ><)> Todd
> ><)>
> ><)> ----- Original Message -----
> ><)> From: "Nick Zarlinga" <njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com>
> ><)> To: "'Katie Lynne Donovan'" <katie_at_donovanhome.com>
> ><)> Cc: "NANFA List Server (E-mail)" <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> ><)> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:04 PM
> ><)> Subject: NANFA-- RE: Speckled Chub fish
> ><)>
> ><)>
> ><)> > Hi Katie, thanks for visiting the NANFA website.
> ><)> I will send your
> ><)> questions
> ><)> > to people on our list server and see if anyone
> ><)> can help you. You have
> ><)> > certainly asked a lot of questions, we will do
> ><)> our best to help you. As I
> ><)> > get messages, I will forward them to you. One
> ><)> suggestion that I would
> ><)> give
> ><)> > you is to contact your local Division of
> ><)> Wildlife and speak with some of
> ><)> the
> ><)> > biologists. I am sure that they can give you a
> ><)> bunch of information.
> ><)> Also,
> ><)> > for us to be able to help you better, which
> ><)> state do you live in? We
> ><)> might
> ><)> > have some members who have contacts that they
> ><)> can give to you. It would
> ><)> > also help if you told us a bit about what you
> ><)> know of this species and why
> ><)> > you picked it as a topic for your 8th grade
> ><)> project. Good luck!
> ><)> >
> ><)> > Nick Zarlinga
> ><)> > Aquarium Biologist
> ><)> > Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
> ><)> > 216.661.6500 ext 4485
> ><)> >
> ><)> >
> ><)> > ><)> -----Original Message-----
> ><)> > ><)> From: Katie Lynne Donovan
> ><)>
> ><)> > ><)> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:58 AM
> ><)> > ><)> To: junk1_at_fish.la.asu.edu
> ><)> > ><)> Subject: Speckled Chub fish
> ><)> > ><)>
> ><)> > ><)>
> ><)> > ><)> Hi! I am doing research on the
> ><)> speckled chub fish
> ><)> > ><)> for an 8th
> ><)> > ><)> grade project. This research is
> ><)> pertaining to the species'
> ><)> > ><)> population status. Questions that I
> ><)> need answered are:
> ><)> > ><)> --Other species within the genus- others
> ><)> > ><)> endangered or not?
> ><)> > ><)> what makes species more vulnerable?
> ><)> > ><)> --Known factors contributing to its
> ><)> population
> ><)> > ><)> status-habitat
> ><)> > ><)> destruction, human population
> ><)> encroachment, etc.?
> ><)> > ><)> --Outlook for the future of this species
> ><)> > ><)> population numbers-
> ><)> > ><)> reason for optimism or concern?
> ><)> > ><)> --Management plan-any programs
> ><)> underway to bolster
> ><)> > ><)> populations or reserve habitat?
> ><)> > ><)> If you find and resources or
> ><)> information related to these
> ><)> > ><)> questions please e-mail me at:
> ><)> > ><)> katie_at_donovanhome.com. Thank
> ><)> > ><)> you!
> ><)> > ><)> -Katie
> ><)> > ><)>
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