RE: NANFA-- mmmmmmm....

Patrick A Ceas (ceas_at_stolaf.edu)
Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:36:27 -0600 (CST)

Frank has not published his work. Jeff is reviewing Frank's results, and
greatly expanding the project to encompass the entire range of the rainbow
darter.

Pat

> Thanks Jan, your comments on Frank McCormick give strength to my
> convictions that the rainbows I have are somewhat different from others
> I've seen. They're not as brilliant as other rainbows, more to the
> point. I thought I had two fairly colorful females, based on collecting
> them when they were still small. But now that they've grown up and I
> look more closely and think about it, I realize that both are males.
> They have vivid orange throats, but the rest of the body coloration is
> more subdued than the "standard" male rainbow. And if we're talking
> about headwater populations more likely being diagnosable species
> through allopatric processes, well, this location on Estill Fork could
> be ground zero for a small-range species. Now I want to go and get some
> more!
>
> --Bruce Stallsmith
> Huntsville, AL, US of A
>
>>From: "Hoover, Jan J ERDC-EL-MS" <HOOVERJ_at_wes.army.mil>
>>Reply-To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
>>To: "'nanfa_at_aquaria.net'" <nanfa at aquaria.net>
>>Subject: RE: NANFA-- mmmmmmm....
>>Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:57:44 -0600
>>
>>Todd Crail wrote:
>> >>> Hopefully they'll have that Dr. Bones McCoy little scanner thingie
>>
>>that
>>ties into the universal satellite database to identify everything, and
>> with that, still be affordable to the common, grant-less or research
>>sponsor-less
>>man<<<
>>
>>Pat wrote:
>> >>>Believe it or not, all (or almost all) of these new species are
>> also
>>diagnosable using good old fashion male breeding color patterns, or
>> counting
>>scales & rays. So, it is actually possible to identify breeding males
>> in the field.<<<
>>
>>Jan writes:
>>Frank McCormick, a fellow graduate student at OU, studied rainbow
>> darter systematics in the late 1980s. He worked mostly with museum
>> specimens but he also documented breeding colors during a series of
>> cross-country darter-watching trips. I do not know if he has published
>> his data, but I believe he was seeing multiple forms that were
>> geographically separated from
>>each other.
>>And...Dr. McCoy's hand-held scanner was really a salt-shaker.
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