Re: NANFA-- RE: Collecting ethics

Steffen Hellner (steffen_at_hellner.biz)
Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:01:11 +0100

You4re terribly right and many amateurs around the globe did and do support
and supply science with incredible amounts of information, data, and
material.
Without this, science wouldn4t know half as much of all this species not of
interest for commerce. Simply because there are not enough assets. And I
have always felt and experienced the high acceptance scientists have for
this contribution. I know scientists that have so many new species available
from hobbyists they will hardly ever be able to describe within their
lifespan.

And I think that you NANFA folks are one of the leading groups in this
concern.

Cheers!

Steffen

> In many references that I've read and studied, many species that are in our
> native streams are not fully understood or sampled by professional wildlife
> professionals mainly due to time and budget restraints; but also due to the
> difficulty in performing an all inclusive study of said habitat simply due
to
> the
> inhospitable terrain to our human incapabilities.
>
> In my state, there are physical restraints and many natural eco-systems
that
> would tax even the most experienced scientists who would love to do such a
> comprehensive study of the thickly forested and often flooded habitats
which
> can
> cover thousands of square miles in any season of the year! Much sampling is
> done at low water and within easy access of roads and otherwise near urban
> communities as Ray Wolff pointed out. Not to mention the cottonmouth and
> copperhead
> snakes and the American Alligator which all tend to leave one's resolve
> somewhat lacking in many areas of our country.
>
> While I agree with the species of special concern ranking for some of
these,
> perhaps there are some who know better, simply by observing the actual
> abundance of some of these species that may be not fully funded for study
by
> the
> interested entities; be it state, university or other concerns. If I may
> suggest,
> there are many un-educated naturalists whom would be interested in sharing
> their common knowledge with those professionals who would truly be
interested
> in
> our experience and expertise for the betterment of knowledge and
preservation
> of all species.
>
> Some of our best information on life history, feeding, spawning of native
> fishes have come from NANFA members, where officialy published books have
> none,
> or very little information! Kudo's to our naturalists who share their
interest
> and time to help establish a data base on the most overlooked species in
North
> America! Thanks Nanfan's!
>
> If anyone takes issue with any of my statements, please contact me off-line
> and I'll be glad to respond to your query.
>
> Swimmingly yours,
>
> BG
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