Dave Neely wrote:
> Tony,
>
> >but has anybody here keep and breed saffron and Tennessee shiners?
>
> I have had a pair of N. leuciodus in a tank at home for a year now; the red
> faded quickly (darn!), but in their normal coloration they develop an
> iridescent green stripe on the dorsolateral surface that looks particularly
> keen.
>
> >how many color form are there of rough shiner and what the normal and
> > >breeding color are actually like? Anything comparable to taillight >and
> >yellowfin shiners? Are there any other red minnow in the Southeast
> >region?
>
> There's evidence for at least two species currently being counfounded under
> N. baileyi; a red form in the SE part of the range, and a yellow form in the
> western parts of the range. They are broadly sympatric in the Bear Creek and
> Black Warrior systems. They also differ in head shape and lateral stripe
> pattern. I haven't gotten around to checking meristics yet. They do well in
> aquaria (eat flake food like little pigs) and play well with others, but are
> photoperiod/temperature dependent for nuptial color, which is fleeting in
> tanks.
>
> But literally, there are tons of NA cyprinids that have awesome nuptial
> coloration. I have a mix of Hemitremia and Phoxinus oreas in the tank on my
> office desk that everytime I look at them I'm in awe (Yeah, it cuts into my
> productivity a bit...). My office mate has a tank with Cyprinella
> pyrrhomelas, Clinostomus sp. cf. funduloides ("smoky dace") and Luxilus
> zonistius together- an awesome sight to behold (even if not representing a
> natural assemblage :)
>
> >About B.G. comment...well, well...if a lot of people in NA have an
> > >interest in tropicals then it is sooner or later people around the >world
> >[eg. me] will be interested in NA natives since many NA shiners >and
> >darters are among the most colorful freshwater fishes.
>
> Agreed. I will admit however, it's nice to find someone who is so impressed
> by published photos and illustrations of these things- if you'd see them in
> the wild it would blow your mind.
>
> cheers,
> Dave
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