Re: NANFA-- Unknown shiner - help please

Mysteryman (bestfish_at_alaweb.com)
Thu, 01 May 2003 19:53:45 -0700

John Bongiovanni wrote:
>
> No Mystery Mysteryman! You appear to be correct in the ID as a Ironcolor
> Shiner. However, according to Page and Burr (peterson's) it is supposed
> to be in the Sabine. Interestingly, it states that the Ironcolor is
> typically found with weed shiners which is exactly what I found.
> Apparently it was a male in its breeding colors. Thanks!
>
> John
>
> Mysteryman wrote:
>
> >John Bongiovanni wrote:
> >
> >
> >>This fish looks very similar to a weed shiner. It was captured in a slough just off the Sabine River in East
> >>Texas. The amber color is accurate and when collected the dorsal and caudal were more redish. The weed shiner does not have the amber color. A behavioral difference is that the weed shiner flicks its caudal lobes together to propel itself. The unknown "wags" its caudal.
> >>Any Idea what it is?
> >>
> >>john
> >>e information about NANFA, visit our web page, http://www.nanfa.org
> >>
> >>
> >It looks like an Ironcolor Shiner to me, Notropis chalybaeus. How it got
> >in the Sabine river is a mystery, though. They're only supposed to be
> >found a few hundred miles further south, in the Colorado river drainage
> >near Austin. You should probably have that one verified by the
> >authorities. Who knows? If it IS an Ironcolor, you may have made a
> >significant discovery.
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Whoops, how embarassing. The book I checked excluded the Sabine, but I
guess I should have known better.
Congratulations on your catch!
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