Use as you see fit.
BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
To: "'B.G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: P. Welaka
> Hmmm. I have an empty 150g tank that might fit the bill. The Sunnies
> don't eat the shiners? Maybe they're too fast. I wonder if a colony of
> Bluespotted Sunfish would work? I've spawned them (Sunnies)in the past
> with a medium/fine gravel bottom to dig in. Tony Terciera was telling me
> he got the Bluenoses to spawn in fine leaved plants, but could not raise
> the young past 1/2" size. Do you know of a good source for Central
> Longears??? (the really hot colored ones)
>
> Interesting.
>
> I'll let you know how they do.
>
> Best,
>
> bp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: B.G. Granier
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:10 PM
> To: Brian Perkins
> Subject: Re: P. Welaka
>
>
> bp,
>
> Man, I've been trying to sucessfully breed this fish since 1992 to no
> success, sadly. I've also sent specimens of the Bluenose shiners to many
> people, both here and in Germany. These fish are an enigma (a puzzle)
> and are a "tough one" to breed. The fish that I get are wild stock.
>
> In the wild, they breed over active sunfish nests. The male sunfish
> scoop out dish-sized depressions in the sand and gravel substrates.
> According to the only life-history study that I've seen, the
> Pteronotropis welaka spawn over and into the sunfish nests,
> theorectically leaving the male sunfish (who is guarding his own nest)
> to fan the eggs and guard the brood of both species. I have personally
> witnessed this behavior, but have so far not accomplished the same
> results.
>
> However, in the past week, I have placed a dozen or so mixed sex welaka
> into a 110 gallon tank in which I have a breeding pair of the "Central
> Longear Sunfish" and am hoping that I'll get fry from the sunfish and
> also the Bluenose Shiners.............more on that later. Wish me luck!
>
> Anyway----your package of Pteronotropis welaka (3 bags-5 fish each) went
> out this afternoon via USPS Express mail, tracking number is as follows:
>
> EU 525206450US
>
> It is scheduled for delivery, your address by #PM tomorrow.
>
> Please let me know the time and condition of the fish once you've
> received them!
>
> BG
>
> PS: there are more males than females, easily determined by the absence
> of enlarged fins and coloration on the females. Presently, the males are
> more prevalent than the females. But, that's OK, because the males spar
> with each other while the females watch until they're ready to select a
> mate and spawn.........does this sound familiar to a human male? To me
> it does, hahahaha!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
> To: "'B.G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 1:23 PM
> Subject: RE: P. Welaka
>
>
> > Excellent! Also, when you get a minute, I would appreciate any tips or
>
> > "secrets" that you might share with me regarding their care &
> > breeding.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > b
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: B.G. Granier
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:10 AM
> > To: Brian Perkins
> > Subject: Re: P. Welaka
> >
> >
> > bp,
> >
> > I have the oxygen cylinder, will be bagging fish as soon as I log off
> > this connection and taking them to the USPS Express mail counter.
> >
> > bg
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
> > To: "'B.G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:07 AM
> > Subject: RE: P. Welaka
> >
> >
> > > B.G.,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update. I'm ready when you are!
> > >
> > > BP
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: B.G. Granier
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:48 AM
> > > To: Brian Perkins
> > > Subject: Re: P. Welaka
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > I didn't ship them yet, I stopped by a welding supply to rent a
> > > small Oxygen tank and had to fill out some paperwork before I could
> > > actually
> >
> > > get the bottle.
> > >
> > > They said to pick it up this morning............
> > >
> > > If all goes well, I should be able to ship the fish (under oxygen)
> > > this afternoon. I'll suplly the tracking number and eta.
> > >
> > > BG
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
> > > To: "'B.G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 4:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: P. Welaka
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tuesday would be preferred if its no trouble.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > bp
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: B.G. Granier
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:43 PM
> > > > To: Brian Perkins
> > > > Subject: Re: P. Welaka
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! I'll notify you of shipping and provide the tracking
> > > > number.
> >
> > > > I'll get them in the mail either tomorrow or Tuesday.
> > > >
> > > > BG
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
> > > > To: "'B.G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:29 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: P. Welaka
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Brian Perkins
> > > > > 1255 Swiftshore Circle
> > > > > West Linn, OR 97068
> > > > >
> > > > > Express is great. I will include $30 for that in the paypal. If
> > > > > it's
> > >
> > > > > more than that, let me know!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > >
> > > > > BP
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: B.G. Granier
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 2:46 PM
> > > > > To: Brian Perkins
> > > > > Subject: Re: P. Welaka
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you use Paypal? You could pay on their site once I send you a
>
> > > > > bill...
> > > > >
> > > > > You want there via Express mail (overnight) or Priority..
> > > > >
> > > > > Dou I have your address?
> > > > >
> > > > > BG
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
> > > > > To: "'B.G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:08 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: P. Welaka
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > B.G.,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My Internet access maybe interrupted over the weekend. Reach
> > > > > > me on
> > >
> > > > > > 503-6502943 if we lose contact. I don't want to miss this
> > > > > > opportunity to get these fish. I've been waiting awhile...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: B.G. Granier
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:11 PM
> > > > > > To: Brian Perkins
> > > > > > Subject: Re: P. Welaka
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tell you what, I'll send you a dozen at $50, keep the box and
> > > > > > pay the postage.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How's that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BG
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Brian Perkins" <btec11_at_attbi.com>
> > > > > > To: "'B. G. Granier'" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:06 PM
> > > > > > Subject: P. Welaka
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > B.G.,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was beat out on the Blue-nosed Shiners you had on Aquabid,
>
> > > > > > > but
> > >
> > > > > > > am still interested if you have that extra dozen available
> > > > > > > that we
> > > > > talked
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > about. I am willing to pay the winning bidders price, so let
>
> > > > > > > me know what's possible?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian
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