----- Original Message -----
From: "B.G. Granier" <bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from Winterk
ill
> Chip,
>
> Hell, I can't even get them to breed their own species! Maybe they are a
> "cross" to begin with...........: - ).
>
> BG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Rinehart" <crin_at_glassmaster.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:00 AM
> Subject: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from Winterk
> ill
>
>
> > Does anyone know if Pt.hypselopterus and Pt.welaka will cross. I
believe
> > they are found in some of the same locations, at least in the FL
> panhandle.
> > If I were to put both species in my pond and the sailfins would spawn
> maybe
> > it would stimulate the bluenose to also. Anyone got other ideas?
> >
> > Chip in SC
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steffen Hellner [SMTP:steffen_at_hellner.biz]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:37 AM
> > > To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > > Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from
> > > Winterk ill
> > >
> > > As far as I am informed (so it may be different) the welaka and hubbsi
> are
> > > separated in nature, their ranges don4t overlap. And more, they seem
to
> > > live
> > > in the same ecological niche and that shouldn4t be kept together as
they
> > > most probably would rival each other. Or - even worse! - could cross
> over
> > > as
> > > there might be no genetical barrier becaue they don4t live syntop and
> > > never
> > > encounter each other in nature.
> > >
> > > Steffen
> > >
> > > > Von: Chip Rinehart <crin_at_glassmaster.com>
> > > > Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > > > Datum: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:36:53 -0400
> > > > An: "'nanfa_at_aquaria.net'" <nanfa at aquaria.net>
> > > > Betreff: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from
> > > Winterk
> > > ill
> > > >
> > > > As I prepare my pond for the bluenose shiners and dollar sunfish, I
> have
> > > > decided to make two sections that the dollars can't follow the
welaka
> > > into.
> > > > This will be done using 1/2" (or 3/4", I haven't decided for
certain)
> > > rigid
> > > > plastic screen that the welaka can swim through but the dollars
can't.
> > > > Hopefully this will allow the shiners some refuge so they don't
become
> > > > fishfood. I'll probably put some Heterandria in there too, so that
> the
> > > > dollars will have something else to chase.
> > > >
> > > > Another thought.....are welaka and hubbsi ever found in the same
> > > locations?
> > > > I want to try the hubbsi as well but can only manage to get the one
> pond
> > > > setup before winter. I'm wondering if they would try to cross or if
> one
> > > > species starting to spawn might stimulate the other?
> > > >
> > > > Chip
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