Re: NANFA--Filters, 1/2 full large round tanks

Todd Crail (farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com)
Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:48:14 -0400

Yeah. I'm not sure what the implications are on quarantine. You'd
definately want to skip on the multi-system if quarantine is necessary. But
I have to believe that there's less chance to give the conditions for
disease to manifest with a much more stable system. I don't "cycle"
anymore. I haven't seen manifestations of Ammonia or Nitrite in a year now
:) It's _certainly_ there, but gets utilized so fast you can't detect it.

Even if you wanted to start sterile, you're going to have about a bazillion
more times surface area in sand than in those bio-flaws. And there
certainly no reason you couldn't put a mechanical filter into the overflow
into a live sand sump. Sajjad's idea about Carex is an awesome one. If I
were doing large systems, I'd incorporate that in a heartbeat! You could do
two studies at once! :)

Another thing you might want to look into is one of those portable pool
mechanical filters. They have an intake hose, a 1 hp pump and it pulls it
all through a sediment filter. My friend Joy cures her live rock in this
manner. 300 gal livestock tubs, dumps in the rock and then blasts it with
this filter to get all the dead sponge off. If you had a smaller scale one
of these, you could drop it on once a week to the "living quarters" and
really get a bunch of crap out.

I was trying to find some pictures of her shop and setup, but I'm not
finding them. I'll have to look on my backup CD's. Shane, do you have any
pics of Harbor online? It's a pretty neat setup and sooooo dang cheap to do
:)

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Zarlinga" <njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: RE: NANFA--Filters, 1/2 full large round tanks

> Not that I think that there is anything wrong with Todd's way, but if you
> are using them as quarantine, I would probably install a pump and pump up
to
> a trickle filter which can sit on top of some supports over the tank. The
> water will then trickle over some plastic biomedia to create a bio filter.
> If you put a filter pad on top, it will act as a mechanical filter. This
> way you have more control over medications etc. in your systems. As
> mentioned, it helps to have conditioned biomedia.
>
> Nick Zarlinga
> Aquarium Biologist
> Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
> 216.661.6500 ext 4485
>
>
> ><)> -----Original Message-----
> ><)> From: owner-nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> ><)> On Behalf
> ><)> Of Hoover, Jan J ERDC-EL-MS
> ><)> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:27 PM
> ><)> To: 'nanfa_at_aquaria.net'
> ><)> Subject: NANFA--Filters, 1/2 full large round tanks
> ><)>
> ><)>
> ><)> I have some large (approx 3 ft high, 5 ft
> ><)> diameter) plastic circular tanks
> ><)> that I would like to maintain half- to
> ><)> three-quarters full of water. Each
> ><)> will contain a single large fish (gar) for 1-3
> ><)> months. I do not plan to use
> ><)> any type of substrate. I need a filter in each
> ><)> that is simple and durable.
> ><)> If located outside the tank, it must draw water up
> ><)> approx 16 inches. Tanks
> ><)> will be at ground-level. It is not practical to
> ><)> elevate tanks very high
> ><)> (although they could be set up some on cinder blocks).
> ><)>
> ><)> Do any of you have experience filtering tanks like
> ><)> these for short periods
> ><)> of time ? If so, can you recommend a particular
> ><)> type of filter ?
> ><)>
> ><)> Thanks.
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