RE: NANFA-L-- ID help

Uland Thomas (fundulus2-in-yahoo.com)
Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:49:10 -0700 (PDT)

Thank you for your input Todd.
I was worried you might say Ironcolor. I catch a similar Notropis in many nearby ditches that have quite different color above the lateral stripe. This fish is rather pale and has slightly silvery scales on it's side compared to what I thought was Ironcolor shiners. The silvery reflections don't show well in the photo I provided. What are the chances this is an Ironcolor and the "darker" shiner I find is a Weed shiner or vice versa? I'm having a hard time figuring out which is weed shiner and which is Ironcolor without harming the fish. I know it's silly but I want to know.

The draining of the Grand marsh (1/2 million acres) about a 100 years ago damaged what I could imagine to be beautiful wetland with quite an interesting group of fish. Many still remain in the ditches that drained the marsh but in much lower numbers hanging on for dear life.

Thanks again,
Uland

"Crail, Todd" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu> wrote:
Uland,

Looks like you caught a state threatened ironcolor shiner, Notropis
chalybaeus.

Of all the destroyed wetlands and connected terrestrial systems in this
country... I'm under the impression that the Kankakee is the most criminal of
all, esp as late as the destruction occurred.

Todd
The Muddy Ditch Madness, Toledo, OH
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
http://www.farmertodd.com

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From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org on behalf of Uland Thomas
Sent: Wed 8/16/2006 4:11 PM
To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
Subject: NANFA-L-- ID help

I caught and released this fish from Kankakee county Illinois from an area
that was once a vast marsh. I have a guess, but wanted some possitive ID help
with this fish.

http://imagesocket.com/view/unknown_shiner53d.jpg

Thanks

Uland

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