Subject: Re: RE: RE: NANFA-L-- ichthyology degree
dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
Date: Tue Dec 07 2004 - 09:58:46 CST
Given your specific interests, you might want to look very carefully-in-the programs-in-a land grant institution, (North Carolina State or Virginia Polytechnic, Clemson, and University of Tennessee would be the ones nearest you), and consider veterinary training (yes, there are fish vets). For college teaching, you will need a graduate degree, preferably a Ph.D. Veterinary schools offer Ph.D. degrees, and in some cases it is possible to complete both a D.V.M. and a Ph.D. simultaneously. Figure on 6 years after the B.S. for that as a minimum.
But, keep in mind that you should expect to be paid by the institution while in graduate study. Not a high rate of pay, but maybe, in today's market, $20,000 per year for a graduate assistantship for Ph.D. study-in-a major university, considerably less-in-a lower tier school.
David L. McNeely, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
Langston University; P.O. Box 1500
Langston, OK 73050; email: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
telephone: (405) 466-6025; fax: 405) 466-3307
home page http://www.lunet.edu/mcneely
"Where are we going?" "I don't know, are we there yet?"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose, Patrick PO" <PWRose-in-C2Cen.uscg.mil>
Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2004 8:34 am
Subject: RE: RE: NANFA-L-- ichthyology degree
> Thank you professor,
>
> I figured there were a few of you guys on here.
>
> I am wanting to be like what DR. Axelrod is to the fish community.
> Study and
> research new breeds and health problems with fish. This can later
> be used
> also to help out fisheries that farm raise fish,-in-least the
> health part.
>
> I will be staying in my local area that I am in now, so I won't
> have to
> worry about dropping out due to location, and after 20 years of
> militarytime giving up isn't an option. Getting started on the
> other hand is, and a
> hard one to do. I am gong to start alot of new things after this
> holidayseason, and one of them is looking for a college that will
> take what I
> already have done and put towards credits that will help me get a
> degree in
> one of the fields that will send me on my way to becoming an
> ichthyologist.I would also be interested in maybe teaching-in-a
> college one day, I teach
> for the Coast Guard and enjoy doing it, I would think that
> teaching is
> teaching it is just a matter of who and what you are teaching.
>
> Once again thank you for your response.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu [dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:01 AM
> To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> Subject: Re: RE: NANFA-L-- ichthyology degree
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> I know of no undergraduate degree in ichthyology. However, many
> institutions offer undergrad degrees in related fields, such as
> zoology,fisheries management, natural resource management,
> biology, integrative
> biology, marine science, and so on. Actually, the list of fields
> where one
> may get fundamental training and education appropriate for future
> work with
> fishes is very large.
>
> Depending on the direction of your interests (managing fish
> populations,conservation, basic research in fish evolution ......
> , again the list is
> endless), you might prefer to study in a fish and wildlife or similar
> program, or you might want to study in a basic program like
> zoology, or
> biology. Large schools offering any of these programs should have
> undergraduate courses in vertebrate zoology, ichthyology,
> fisheries biology,
> and other related courses. Small schools may not offer these
> courses, but
> may still be a good place to study.
>
> Such a program can be completed in four or five years of full-time
> study,starting with only a high school graduation. Specializing
> in ichthyology is
> done in graduate school (masters or Ph.D.), and requires from 2 to 6
> additional years. There are ichthyologists by a number of
> specialty names
>-in-many institutions.
>
> I recommend that you take a look-in-the web site for the American
> Society of
> Ichthyologists and Herpetologists, and that of the American Fisheries
> Society. Also, take a look-in-the primary journals that publish
> ichthyological work, such as Copeia, Transactions of the American
> FisheriesSociety, Conservation Biology. Pick some fishes that are
> of interest to
> you, and search for work that is on the web. You will find the
> names of
> scientists who study those fishes, and information about their
> researchprograms.
>
> You may wish to study where some of those folks are located, and
> you may
> wish to contact some of them prior to applying there. They may be
> able to
> tell you more about what you will find in the way of opportunity
> to work
> with fishes as an undergraduate.
>
> Finally, I recommend that you pick a place to study that will be
> comfortablefor you in a wide range of aspects, not just academic.
> Most people who fail
> to complete their studies leave school for non-academic reasons.
>
> You will notice from my signature that I am a professor. Langston
> University is a small, historically black, public, undergraduate
> institution. We offer a general undergrad program in biology.
> Most of our
> students are preparing for medical or medically related careers.
> We also
> offer a degree in natural resource management, which includes a
> course in
> fisheries biology and one in limnology (freshwater science). Most
> studentsin that program are preparing for graduate study in
> natural resource
> management, conservation, or for government positions.
>
> Dave
>
> David L. McNeely, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
> Langston University; P.O. Box 1500
> Langston, OK 73050; email: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
> telephone: (405) 466-6025; fax: 405) 466-3307
> home page http://www.lunet.edu/mcneely
>
> "Where are we going?" "I don't know, are we there yet?"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rose, Patrick PO" <PWRose-in-C2Cen.uscg.mil>
> I want to go for ichthyology,
> > depending on how
> > long it will take to get a degree in it.
>
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