Re: RE: NANFA-L-- Amazon Mollies

dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:12:42 -0600

Jan, I would like a photocopy of Brown's article, if you don't mind.

Dave

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hoover, Jan J ERDC-EL-MS" <Jan.J.Hoover-in-erdc.usace.army.mil>
Date: Monday, February 7, 2005 1:42 pm
Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- Amazon Mollies

> Bob -
>
> Clark Hubbs reviewed historical data and I assume voucher
> specimens. He
> makes no mention of any records of P. velifera. At least some of
> the mollies
> came from a rearing facility in Louisiana which would suggest
> latipiina.
> If you like, I can send you a photocopy of Brown's article.
>
> - Jan
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org [owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org]On Behalf
> Of Bob Bock
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:31 PM
> To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- Amazon Mollies
>
>
> Hi Jan. Was it known whether the introductions were P. latipinna
> or P.
> velifera?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Hoover, Jan J ERDC-EL-MS" <Jan.J.Hoover-in-erdc.usace.army.mil>
> Sent: Feb 7, 2005 1:36 PM
> To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- Amazon Mollies
>
> Dave McNeely wrote:
> >>>Both species of mollies-in-San Marcos are introduced -- the
> sailfins from
> southern Louisiana, the Amazons from far S. Texas. The Amazon
> story-in-San
> Marcos is an interesting one. They were accidentally released
> from a
> traveling display of live Texas wildlife being taken around the
> state for
> educational purpose by the Texas Game and Fish Commission (now a
> part of the
> Texas Parks and Wildlife Department) that was housed in a trailer
>-in-the fish
> hatchery there. It is unclear when the sailfins were released --
> maybemultiple times.<<<
>
> Dave -
>
> What year did that happen ? Doug Martin wrote a paper on Amazon
> mollies in
> the Nueces River in 1964 for the Texas Journal of Science (which I
> have not
> yet seen) and I was wondering if it was prior to that.
>
> Re sailfin mollies - I posted this once before but it may be of
> interest -
> A 1953 article by William H. Brown (Texas Game and Fish
> Commission) notes
> that sailfin mollies were accidentally stocked in the San Antonio
> River when
> a 1939 flood washed out some fish ponds in which E.E. Shiner was
> raisingthem. Between 1932 and 1940, C.H. Burnstein stocked
> sailfins in the Comal
> River. Mollies were unknown-in-that time from the San Marcos, but
> in 1944,
> mollies were used as bait and released several times in the San
> Marcos.Brown notes that numbers of mollies were (in 1952) highest
> in the San
> Antonio, moderate in the Comal, low in the San Marcos, and lowest
> in the
> Guadalupe - and associated the trend with history of stocking and
> winterwater temperatures.
>
>
>
>
>
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