Re: NANFA-L-- Raising Ghost Shrimp

dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:47:57 -0600

Some of you might be interested in this regarding grass shrimp:

http://fins.actwin.com/live-foods/month.9709/msg00021.html

If "grass shrimp" is a regionalism, the region is pretty big -- Texas to Maryland,-in-least. Seriously, I've always heard academics and local people alike in the places I've lived and worked call them that.

BTW, in my post below, and in previous posts I've made, some of the text was truncated. In this case, I had further remarked that _Macrobrachium_ has been investigated for aquaculture, that the people in Mexico commonly eat those species in their rivers, and that I've known people in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas who ate them from the Rio Grande and associated oxbow lakes (locally known as "resacas" - the lakes, not the prawns)

Dave

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Bock <bockhouse-in-earthlink.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2005 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Raising Ghost Shrimp

> Thanks for making the complicated simple, Dave. FYI, grass shrimp
> are probably a regionalism--at Angler's Sports Center, a big bait
> and tackle shop outside Annapolis Maryland, I've seen what I'd
> guess were little Palaemonetes shrimp for sale as bait. They were
> labeled as "grass shrimp" and sold in a cardboard box full of wet
> sawdust. I put some in with my sheepshead minnows, who promptly
> pulled them apart and ate them.
>
> This was really surprising, because the sheepsheads didn't eat the
> Palaemontes shrimp that I'd captured locally in the Chesapeake.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
> Sent: Jan 4, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Raising Ghost Shrimp
>
> I assume that what you are calling "ghost shrimp" are members of
> the genus _Palaemonetes_, which are decapod crustaceans more
> commonly referred to as "grass shrimp" than "ghost shrimp" (a term
> I have never heard except on this list) in the biological literature.
>
> Grass shrimps include both marine and freshwater species,
> including-in-least 3 obligate cave species that are endangered. At
> least 3 species are known from Indiana waters. Grass shrimps are
> reported by Thorp and Covich's _Ecology and Classification of
> North American Freshwater Invertebrates_ to be common in lentic
> and sluggish lotic (stream) environments. I have collected them
> in the Elm Fork of the Trinity River in Texas, among other streams
> with abundant and healthy fish populations. Abundant healthy
> vegetation, tree root wads, and detritus seem more important than
> absence of fish. In addition to _Palaemonetes_, another
> freshwater shrimp-like genus, _Macrobrachium_, commonly referred
> to as "prawns" in N. America, also occurs in medium to large
> rivers, including in S. Indiana. These animals grow much larger
> than grass shrimps, reaching 30 cm in length, not including
> antennae, and are heavily pigmented, unlike grass shrimps. These
> last have been investigated in the past!
> for aqua
>
> David L. McNeely, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
> Langston University; P.O. Box 1500
> Langston, OK 73050; email: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
> telephone: (405) 466-6025; fax: 405) 466-3307
> home page http://www.lunet.edu/mcneely
>
> "Where are we going?" "I don't know, are we there yet?"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sajjad Lateef <sajjadlateef-in-yahoo.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2005 8:00 am
> Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Raising Ghost Shrimp
>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 20:24:00 EST
> > From: IndyEsox-in-aol.com
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Raising Ghost Shrimp
> >
> > Any suggestions on keeping them alive?
> > Where do you find ghost shrimp in the wild? Are they found in
> > Indiana?
> >
> >
> > Ghost Shrimp are indicators of good water quality and will be
> > found in fresh, clean, standing water where there is plenty of
> > emergent vegetation and very few fish, if any. I have found them
> > in (temporary) shallow roadside ditches in late Spring, early
> Summer.>
> > To keep them alive, you need to be doing a lot of water changes.
> > Wild-collected fish will eat them on sight. Tank raised fish will
> > eat them when they molt or as soon as they understand that the
> > shrimp are edible. Nice to have around, but, I have found they
> > will not survive for long in my tanks.
> >
> > Sajjad
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