--Bruce Stallsmith
but, no Alabamas in the Tennessee
Huntsville, AL, US of A
>From: "Todd D. Crail" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
>Reply-To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
>Subject: NANFA-L-- Alabama Cyprinella
>Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:47:37 -0500
>
>Hi gang,
>
>I'm trying to figure out what we caught here... Back in late January, a
>friend and I made a suicide run to Alabama over a weekend (yes down Friday
>night, back Sunday night) to try and get more information about the
>"southern walleye" from the Mobile Basin... Catching some "bait", using a
>school van with school gas was the <ahem> incentive to do such a ridiculous
>thing. One might also call it "Ice Madness".
>
>Our target was Hatchet Creek in Coosa County, running into Lake Mitchell
>from the east, which Lake Mitchell is an impoundment on the Coosa proper.
>
>Anyway... We brought back some Cyprinella that we assumed were blackspot
>shiners, C. venusta. Upon review, as I'm preparing for Jeff G and my
>invasion of the central SE next week... Completely disagree with that
>identification. In the mix were definate tricolor shiners, C.
>trichroistia (what a lovely fish), and there _may_ have been blackspots.
>But the ones that made it home we were calling blackspots... Ain't no way
>they're blackspots.
>
>They have bright red inter-dorsal membranes framed by jet black, are
>getting redish tails, and a pinkish hue to their pelvic and anal fins. The
>tail spot is nearly symetrically oblong and quite prominent in comparison
>to the tricholor.
>
>I'm leaning toward the Alabama shiner, C. callistia, but I'm not sure that
>we can rule out the Tallapoosa shiner, C. gibbsi, even though it's not
>supposed to be up there, but is darn close?
>
>The Natureserve and FO TN and AL pictures don't really solve much either.
>None of the pictures have red in the dorsal, and this is really, to our
>eyes, this fish's most prominent color feature.
>
>Any ideas? I can get shots, but I am really running short on time this
>week, and live, wiley cyprinids are such a PITA to photograph.
>
>Thanks for any ideas. It may come that we'll have to go back down there
>and look again (oh darn! :) and have Prez give 'em a looky.
>
>Todd
>The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
>It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
>http://www.farmertodd.com
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