Re: NANFA-L-- Moribund fish & Life Outside

matt ashton (ashtonmj2003 at yahoo.com)
Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT)

Todd,

It is a really pustulose Mapleleaf , Q. quadrula. The lateral teeth are a big indication of this as I have a Monkeyface Q. metenevra and Mapleleaf out right now. The direction and length are what I'm lookiung at specically. Also posteior to the umbo see how the shell sort of extends and cureves down and away from it, that really doesn't occur in metevra's it just is a straight down with the shape of the inflation. Also looks like you have some pustules on your beak sculpture. Don't have that monkey profile either. Finally another big one, the cardinal teeth are very different and this screams quadrula.

Love the picture of the tippecanoe. I've run across quite a few snorkeling this year, although they are no longer considered tippecanoe's. Wow I can't get over how different I think coloration in Ohio greensides is than TN greensides too.

I should send you a few of the big river metenevras they are pretty impressive. Slowly but surely I am working on getting more digital photos of shells from the Duck and Clinch and Green Rivers and fish pictures from the TN drainage online.

"Todd D. Crail" <tcrail at UTNet.UToledo.Edu> wrote:
How about a building's heating system not acting right? Oh, and how's about
when the water coming out of the tap has a pH of 9.1, phosphorus 3 times
that of a eutrophic river across the parking lot, and nitrate 5 time that
the same stream. Filtering doesn't do much either because it burns up the
carbon so fast. I literally need to change the filters every 150 gallons to
assure I'm safely filtering metals and chlorine. This is all before I add
the pure Sodium Thiosulfate to catch anything the filter missed.

Good thing I ignored my Hurlbert crazed stats professor's assertions that
Masters projects should _only_ be done inside... Because you don't have any
control over things "outside". Ha. Tank went to 86 F over the weekend.
They have/are/will be dying. If my spotted sucker goes down I am going to
be p!$$ed.

Tank moves on Saturday over to the lady friends house cause I'm sick of
this. I told her "You know... This is a BIG step." lol But she took a
spill in the stream like a champ, can tell you the difference between a
bluebreast and spotted darter, ate lunch without washing hands after holding
a recently dead mussel, and even humored me to catch some southern redbelly
in the dark with head lamps so we'd have more time the following day. I
think she's a keeper.

So... You can see the rest of the pictures I'd be writing about now if I
wasn't scurrying to get everything else I need to do done to prepare for the
move. This is a different directory than my accident pictures the other
night.

http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/paintcreek05/images/

Some quick notes... We sampled the site at Alum Cliff Falls Road again, this
time hammering through habitats like banshees with a penchant for
partitioning of resources. We did 27 species of fish in 50 minutes and at
most, 75 meters of stream! Then I totally banged my shin, so we didn't get
a chance to try and add a logperch, bluegill, green sunnie, fantail or
johnny. You know... All the common stuff lol.

There is a gorge downstream of Copperas we need to organize a canoe trip
through. It looks like this exposure in the photos, but on both sides and
is sheer for almost a half mile. That has got to be unbelievable.

Hey and any musselheads... Is that a monkeyface? Or a _really_ pustulose
mapleleaf? I was looking in Watters Ohio booklet and it said that
monkeyface only occur in the Muskingum. I need to get a permit for the Ohio
drainages. I really wish I had those valves the more I look at the photo.
And not just to satisfy my little Gollum. This was clear up just south of
Columbus, so if there weren't other records, it would be semi-important.

Todd
The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
http://www.farmertodd.com
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