Re: NANFA-- FW: FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND NATIONAL MARINE

Steffen Hellner (steffen_at_hellner.biz)
Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:02:09 +0200

Not really much different here in Germany. Guess what - it4s politics and
economy.
But here not much is left to protect. So, we are a step ahead ;-)

Steffen

----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Zarlinga <njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: NANFA-- FW: FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND NATIONAL MARINE
FISHERIES SERVICE ANNOUNCE POLICY FOR EVALUATION OF CONSERVATION EFFORTS
WHEN MAKING ESA LISTING DECISIONS

> I thought the same way that this seems to push the brunt of the
> responsiblity off the shoulders of FWS. I am very uneducated in the
> political aspect of things but I am glad that someone else looked at it
the
> same.
>
> Nick Zarlinga
> Aquarium Biologist
> Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
> 216.661.6500 ext 4485
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanfa_at_aquaria.net On Behalf
> Of Todd Crail
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:20 AM
> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- FW: FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND NATIONAL MARINE
> FISHERIES SERVICE ANNOUNCE POLICY FOR EVALUATION OF CONSERVATION EFFORTS
> WHEN MAKING ESA LISTING DECISIONS
>
>
> Perhaps I'm just paranoid... But this makes me kinda uneasy. It seems
> there's a lot open for abuse with "You didn't try hard enough, practice
> enough bureaucracy, or know enough about how to heal the population of
this
> organism, so we'll not list this species at this time". It again seems an
> even *greater* burden is placed on the researchers and concerned groups to
> get attention to an organism... To the point to even lock up the decision
in
> court for a bit and have *no* movement on a potentially threatening action
> on the part of some other interested party (industry, agriculture,
> development)... Which didn't even work out for the salmon swimming up the
> Klamath this year, as one example.
>
> Or...
>
> Maybe I'm just Mr. Negative today and I need to do something other than
read
> DOI and DOC news releases about what they're doing for nature. :)
>
> The mussel info seems good tho. That'll help to protect quite a bit of
> diversity (It was neat to know a little about the Cahaba and Coosa rivers
> when reading this :). Now to just get them to say that it's *more* than
> just a mussel they're protecting there so the entire population
understands
> that it's not *just* about a "clam" :)
>
> Todd
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