I'll pass those thoughts along. Thanks!
Nick,
Yeah, I agree. It's very pronounced here as well on the Ottawa/Tenmile
Creek and Swan Creek first dams. I used to think the DO2 was just too low
in either stream for anything large and predatory to make way through the
industrialized sections of either water body, but apparently it's happens.
One day I was out on the bridge in front of Owens Corning over Swan Creek
right at it's mouth into the Maumee having a corporate cancer break... There
had been a sharp heat wave come on the area (going from the 50's to the
upper 80's overnight) and my guess is... It took out the critical amounts of
O2 from the water that was allowing certain animals to be in Swan Creek. I
watched in dismay as 6 adult walleye bodies floated by in the 10 minutes I
was out there. And those were just the ones I could discern from the
suckers, catfish and drum. Ugh.
Rumor is "lost" steelhead make their way up as well in the fall. I've seen
them up the Maumee, I'm still waiting for pictures tho from either of the
two smaller streams. :)
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: "njz" <njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Quantative Sampling?
> It is very well known by all the fishermen that you need to fish at the
base
> of the low-head dam at the RT 82 bridge of the Cuyahoga river. It is the
> first impediment from the lake which is about 10 miles down stream and you
> can catch just about any of the lake fish, including a 50 lb sturgeon a
year
> or so ago. Fish on upstream from the dam and you don't catch much of
> anything. That's proof enough for me!
>
> Nick Zarlinga
>
>
> "If we ignore nature.....maybe it'll go away."
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Quantative Sampling?
>
>
> > They're hypothesizing that the dam prevents certain species that used to
> > migrate the up this stream have been prevented from doing such (walleye,
> > white bass, pike, drum, gar, suckers). They would like to see what
fauna
> > exist above and below the dam in all water stage condition. The
student
> > feels the species can only make passage in extreme conditions when the
> river
> > is at such a stage that the dam is submerged under water level, and this
> has
> > prevent many species from utitlizing an otherwise fine stream nursery.
> >
> > To test this extreme condition, they felt that sampling the floodplains
> > adjacent above and below during flooding might lend an insight into who
is
> > where when and why. This section of stream used to be nice rocky,
> trickling
> > brook with intact floodplains. However, someone got the idea to dump
the
> > University of Toledo and the Village of Ottawa Hills right in around all
> > this... So, you know... The usual story... But I'll not villanize
them...
> > You should see it 6 miles further downstream where it runs right by the
> old
> > Jeep plant. Yikes. Can you say mercury and arsenic bath?
> >
> > We already discussed a bit about how stream quality increases the
further
> > you go upstream... We're going to work around all of that and help his
> > student understand that non-point specific pollution is *really* the
> factor
> > she might hone in on, but more of that later... I wouldn't be abhorrent
to
> > her getting attention to remove that stinkin' dam anyway :)
> >
> > Channelized... When I say channelized, I'm talking about attempting to
> > straighten and deepen the stream channel so water is more contained to
the
> > streambed in heavy flow periods (as little to do with flood plains as
> > possible), and is rushed out of there as quickly as possible.
> >
> > Famous examples would be the Mississippi through southern Louisiana or
> what
> > they call the Los Angeles "River".
> >
> > Thanks for your questions and interest guys :)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay DeLong" <thirdwind_at_att.net>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- Quantative Sampling?
> >
> >
> > > >It appears I'm going to be working with a professor and his grad
> students
> > at
> > > >the University of Toledo a sampling study they're doing on the effect
> of
> > a
> > > >low head dam on species distribution (Thank you Dr. Ceas, this could
> turn
> > > >out *seriously* cool :)
> > >
> > > Todd,
> > > What do you mean by studying the effects of a dam on species
> distribution?
> > >
> > > Second, are they looking at any species in particular?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jay DeLong
> > > Olympia, WA
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