NANFA-- for MC: FAR off topic

Bob Bock (bockhouse_at_earthlink.net)
Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:18:18 -0500

Well, MC, don't lose hope. I believe there's an imaginary line between
ignorance and knowledge. Not all knowledge is good, and sometimes ignorance
is bliss, but, in general, people are better off when they know more than
when they'll know less. Each day I go to work, I try to push the line of
ignorance back a little further, to get a little more knowledge into the
picture and I sincerely believe that the cosmos has moved one tiny miniscule
fraction of an even tinier miniscule fraction toward becoming a better
place.

Anyway, I've see I've otten far more pseudomystical and philosophical than I
care to get.

Good luck, MC, in your efforts to pushing back the ignorance. No matter how
small your gains, I have a feeling they're still worthwhile.
----- Original Message -----
From: "m c" <midgatutordigests_at_yahoo.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Re: nanfa V1 #1467

> Farmers have always had an understanding of evolution,
> and have been harnessing it since farming began.
> Domestication, and other froms of species alteration
> though Human selection, are merely an acceleration of
> natural selection down an un-natural path. It is only
> because the species involved change relativly little
> over the lifetime of an individual generation of
> farmers, that they do not realize how much change has
> occured.
>
> By "as much as they need to know" I am only facing
> reality. Most of the students that I will be teaching
> will not leave the farm. And those that do will
> likely stray only as far as the factories and kaolin
> mines nearby. They also have a life time of
> indoctration in Creationism. Getting them to
> understand natural selection without turely
> "believing" in evolution is acceptible. It is not
> worth it in most cases to push any farther. I won't
> be producing very many bio tech workers.
>
> It is simular to race relations. Accepting other
> races as "equals" and allowing social events in mixed
> company and friendships is an achivible point, but
> getting people to accept inter racial dating....
>
> The reason that there are 87 churches in this county
> (that I found) is that 1\3 of them are "Black". There
> is no longer any seperation by church doctrine, but
> people still go to the church that their family has
> always gone to. The White folks go to the white
> churches, and the Black folks go to the black
> churches.
>
> I once spoke at a CME (Christian Methodist Epsitical,
> formerly Coloured Methodist Epsitical before some of
> their urban churches desegerated, don't ask me the
> difference between them and the A(frican)ME, we got
> both and I couldn't tell) Church. It was in an
> outlying area between the {White} United Metodist
> Church and the Afican Baptist Church. This is
> typical. (in Kite there are 2 white baptist churchs in
> the same association; one on either side of the White
> Methodist Church) I was told that there used to be an
> AME between the CME and the ABC, but they combined
> with the CME, though many of the AMEs moved onto
> another AME down the road rather than join the CME.
> These churches had been there since "Slave time". The
> White folks weren't meeting that night, but I did
> "steal" the congragation of the of the ABC and put
> them in the CME before their preacher got there. He
> was quite apprecitive that I did and they all got the
> Voting Machine Demo together. The the ABCs went back
> to their church for their sermon, and I ran over to
> the Primitive Baptist (white) Church on the otherside
> of the county for my 9PM show. Their membersihp in
> the PBA is under review for being too lively. They
> consider themselves to be "Bapticostals" and were
> really siked up because their guest speaker the next
> week was going to be a missonary from Zambia. Not a
> missonary from the U.S. to Zambia, but a missonary
> sent from Zambia to preach to the U.S. .
>
> Which I guess fits since when I was in school we had a
> Peace Corp worker sent to teach Spanish.
>
> This may all seem quite off topic, but it does
> demonstrate my working conditions and the reasons for
> some of the compromises that I will be making.
>
> It also explains why I have the endorsment and
> blessing of the CME as a teacher before my frist bio
> lecture. Also, the heads of the NAACP and SCLC are
> "very excited" that I will be joining the staff at the
> high school even though they know that as a member of
> The Sons' of Confederate Veterans we are on oppisite
> sides of the Courthouse Monument issue.
>
> Anyway, that is the News from 102 Chester Dr.,
> Wrightsville Ga, 31096
>
>
> --- Dave McNeely <dlmcneely_at_lunet.edu> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "nanfa" <owner-nanfa-digest_at_aquaria.net>
> > To: <nanfa-digest_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:20 PM
> > Subject: nanfa V1 #1467
> >
> >
> > >
> > > nanfa Monday, December 2 2002
> > Volume 01 : Number
> > 1467
> > >
> >
> > Perhaps whoever made the statement below would care
> > to expound -- to me
> > privately if this is not of list interest. I find
> > that few people know all
> > they need to know about evolution, even if they have
> > experiences that should
> > have prepared them to understand readily. As one
> > who teaches evolution at
> > several levels, believe me, getting people to know
> > "all they need to know"
> > is quite a difficult task.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > The main thing will be getting them to
> > realize,
> > > > > without pushing too hard, that as farm kids,
> > they
> > > > > already know all that they need to about
> > evolution.
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