Re: NANFA-- Some eye candy and stuff...

Todd Crail (
Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:10:17 -0500

So, of the species I sampled and the addition of potentially also having
pumpkinseeds... That's pretty much the pack of possibilities in the Maumee
watershed, and I'll note that I have yet to sample a pumpkinseed anywhere in
the watershed as well... It will certainly be interesting to see how this
fish grows up :)

Thank you for your comments Mr. Sinclair :)

Nick... Don't even start. ;)

----- Original Message -----
From: "R. W. Wolff" <>
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Some eye candy and stuff...

> : Re: NANFA-- Some eye candy and stuff...
> > No offense, Ray, but I think the red edging around the opercular flap
> would
> > rule out a redbreast.
> No offense taken, Bob. I didn't figure redbreasts were in Ohio, but you
> never know. My best guess is I see a bluegill pumpkinseed hybrid. Since
> pumpkinseed is not likely, A redear ( shellcracker) is that part. I don't
> think it is a bluegill on the other half, since the markings on the cheek
> tell me that one parent had wavy blue lines on the cheek. Longear
> shellcracker hybrid is my guess going on the selection of species Todd
> us. However, some papers I have read put orange spots and bluegills as
> closely related, so a orange spot shellcracker could be an option. The
> thing is, the northern longear- or jewel sunfish as I call them ( just
> at the pictures on Todds website!) could have spawned with a shelly or an
> ospot. But I think the ear would be larger, although this is a youngster.
> am interested to see what this fish looks like when it gets a bit bigger.
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