Re: NANFA-- breeding darters

njz (njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com)
Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:55:33 -0500

<If you have never seen one (not you Geoff!), here's a photo:
http://www.jonahsaquarium.com/picevariatum.htm

Hey, that's my fish! He is still going strong, although not as dark. Still
has some nice color though. Aggressive feeder. Two females in the tank
too.

Nick Zarlinga

"If we ignore nature.....maybe it'll go away."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <markb_at_columbus.rr.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- breeding darters

> At 8:18 PM -0500 1/16/03, geoff wrote:
> >While I await spring, I wonder if I might talk my variagate darters into
> >breeding when the garage warms up.
> >Any ideas?
>
>
> Geoff, I have one word for you. One word. Are you listening?
>
> Yes, Mr Fish-breeding-know-it-all.
>
> Plasti- ...no wait, Daylength!
>
> That's a word. I think.
>
> OK, two more words: Bob Muller. Bob is a darter breeding expert. He has
> covered the essentials in his email. But, I feel strongly that the
> long-short daylength cycle is critical. Yeah, some fish might spawn
> regardless, but if you can control the photoperiod to mimic short winter
> days followed by lengthening spring days, you should be in the zone. Then
> bring the temp up to near 70. If the females are plump with eggs, you
> should have a spawn-fest. They might not get as plump as wild conditioned
> fish, but that will just be fewer mouths for you to feed. I have observed
> wild conditioned E osburni (a close relative of variatum) spawning in an
> aquarium. I suggest you use a loose gravel like the red flint fine or
> medium on the bottom. The actual spawning site will be unpredictable. I
> am too lazy to pick eggs like Bob M does. I just cover the bottom with
> gravel (I use an undergravel filter) and let them do it wherever they
like.
> Then, once the females have lost weight or you have observed the spawning,
> remove all of the adults and wait. Hatch time will vary with species and
> temperature. Three to five days is a good standard. The hatchlings will
> be on the bottom until they absorb their yokes and then in the water
column
> after that. They will feed for a while and then drop out to their normal
> bottom dwelling darter lives. They may be entirely invisible to you for
> this whole time unless you have very good eyesight. The eggs will likely
> be deposited in the gravel, buried shallowly and somewhat adhesive. The
> fry will look like tiny slivers of glass drifting in the water. In a 55
> gallon you will have to really hunt to see any. I have raised E osburni
> fry on new-hatch Artemia (brine shrimp). So, hopefully, the variatum fry
> will be large enough to take that too. Otherwise, Bob is the guy who can
> suggest smaller feeds. I think it would be really great if someone can
> produce this species for distribution. They are large and attractive in
> the tank. Captive reared fish should be much easier to feed too. It
> will likely take a long time to grow them, since they are so large as
> adults. I have collected fry in New York in mid summer that were about 1
> to 1.5 inches long.
>
> If you have never seen one (not you Geoff!), here's a photo:
> http://www.jonahsaquarium.com/picevariatum.htm
>
>
> Mark
> Ohio
> USA

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