Re: NANFA-- Collecting ethics

Stan Perkins (stanperkins_at_academicplanet.com)
Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:02:25 -0600

There are people who have sex and rapists. Do we isolate the majority of
folks who follow the rules. This seems to happen more and more in our
complicated, crowded world. The reptile hobby seems to go through this in
regular cycles. The evil doers are uncovered and subject to abuse and
disappear only to reappear later. Until game and fish departments care as
much about general habitats as about numbers of sports fish and game, we
will continue to loose ground. Untill Man spreads up and not out we will
always lose the good fight one way or another. Each year I see more and more
degregation.

Stan Perkins

----- Original Message -----
From: <anutej_at_loxinfo.co.th>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting ethics

> Depends. Seen lots of a****le collecters, fishermen, scientists,
> officials, and hobbyists. Collecters who collecting anything that
> move and have $value, fishermen who dam the whole stream & drying it &
> collecting everything edible [loach, insect, tadpoles, etc] or gillnet
> the river from one side to the other side using mesh size far smaller
> than the law allow, scientist using cyanide to wipe out everything in
> the stream for specimens and doesn't give a damn about its future
> after description, officials who dump in million of exotics as part of
> the job [and the more released = better job prospect in the future],
> fisheries official who banned fishermens from fishing with explosives
> but do it themselves, and hobbyist who want rare stuffs no matter how
> imperil it is [actually the rarer the better especially cites
> animals].
> There are bad apples everywhere. But don't brand all apples bad
> because of it. The suggestion about some screening sounds good.
>
> Tony
>
>
> EELReprah_at_aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 1/12/04 9:50:27 AM, njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com
writes:
> >
> > << There are certainly a higher percentage of biologists with a
> >
> > passion that hobbyists. >>
> >
> > I don't buy that. I think the percentage of passion is probably the
same. The
> > hobbyist has only passion as a driving force, The professional has both
> > passion and livelihood. Quantitative evaluation is impossible since I
don't know
> > how to measure the passion quotient.
> >
> > Lee Harper
> > Media, PA
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