Chip in SC (former home of the NOW EXTINCT CAROLINA PARAKEET)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Smith [SMTP:idleweed_at_tusco.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:45 AM
> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting ethics
>
> I do not believe that you know that for a fact. It is an excuse for
> the
> people who overcollected these birds. Don't excuse them by saying the
> animal
> would have died off anyway.
> What about the passenger pigeon? Were they driven to extinction by
> hunters, or by zoologists trying to collect for exhibit or breeding in
> zoos?
> I don't know but I doubt if anyone does for sure.
> As far as the professional vs amateur debate I believe the pro can do
> a
> better job IF they have the proper equipment and IF they are supported by
> their superiors. Most professional biologists that I know spend much of
> their free time studying in their chosen field and helping amateurs (the
> biologists have the passion). There are also many amateurs that are as
> well
> qualified as the pro and could do just as good a job IF they have the
> right
> equipment. I come to this group from an interest in insects so maybe my
> views are slanted because of the nature of entomology and entomologists
> but
> I think most biologists are very interested in their field and animals in
> general.
>
> Dave Smith.
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> From: <coelacanth_at_btinternet.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:42 AM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting ethics
>
>
> > > Not true, it was made rare by exploitation for food but was made
> extinct
> by
> > > so called gentleman naturalists that had to have the northern penguin
> as
> part
> > > of their collection of stuffed animals.
> >
> > But by that time the population had dropped to a level that was almost
> certainly unable to sustain itself given the lack of coherent conservation
> networks. All they did was speed the end by a few years.
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