RE: NANFA-- Collecting ethics

Chip Rinehart (crin_at_glassmaster.com)
Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:59:06 -0500

What about the Carolina Parakeet? It was collected by both people who
wanted it for the pet trade and for it's feathers.

Chip in SC (former home of the NOW EXTINCT CAROLINA PARAKEET)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Smith [SMTP:idleweed_at_tusco.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:45 AM
> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting ethics
>
> I do not believe that you know that for a fact. It is an excuse for
> the
> people who overcollected these birds. Don't excuse them by saying the
> animal
> would have died off anyway.
> What about the passenger pigeon? Were they driven to extinction by
> hunters, or by zoologists trying to collect for exhibit or breeding in
> zoos?
> I don't know but I doubt if anyone does for sure.
> As far as the professional vs amateur debate I believe the pro can do
> a
> better job IF they have the proper equipment and IF they are supported by
> their superiors. Most professional biologists that I know spend much of
> their free time studying in their chosen field and helping amateurs (the
> biologists have the passion). There are also many amateurs that are as
> well
> qualified as the pro and could do just as good a job IF they have the
> right
> equipment. I come to this group from an interest in insects so maybe my
> views are slanted because of the nature of entomology and entomologists
> but
> I think most biologists are very interested in their field and animals in
> general.
>
> Dave Smith.
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:42 AM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting ethics
>
>
> > > Not true, it was made rare by exploitation for food but was made
> extinct
> by
> > > so called gentleman naturalists that had to have the northern penguin
> as
> part
> > > of their collection of stuffed animals.
> >
> > But by that time the population had dropped to a level that was almost
> certainly unable to sustain itself given the lack of coherent conservation
> networks. All they did was speed the end by a few years.
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