RE: NANFA-- Collecting vacation

geoff (gkimber2_at_alltel.net)
Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:43:28 -0400

I'm not so sure about the open container thing. I have had real problems
with losses in open tubs. I don't know how Chip and Dustin keep those fish
alive in the back of their pickup.

I have had the best results with using breathing bags, no air, and amquel
added to the water. the drive like crazy.

if collect over night, or take a couple of days to get home, I inspect the
bags every night to look for floaters, which are promptly removed.

The fish are kept in styro coolers in the back of the van, which has rear
a/c, so overheating is not a problem.

Geoff kimber
lexington,ky

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From: owner-nanfa_at_aquaria.net On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting vacation

bruce...
good advice. it always bums me major when i have fish die. and i have had
several of late from 3 recent trips.

ive decided these actions are important to success...
minimal handling.
cool, cold and clean water. ( i dont like water changes during travel as
this
alters temp and chemistry ) i float zip bags full of ice in the cooler, not
a
lot just a couple handfuls.
air powered filtering.

i used a cartridge filter on my last trip... the kind w/ the charcoal and
ammonia remover powered by an airline. i figured this would help w/ any
waste
buildup. it also has the filter pad for the bacteria to grow on. bg pointed
out
to me and i agree the native water has plenty of bacteria in it to establish
the filter pad... hopefully fairly quickly.

mark b pointed out to me that running an airstone into the cooler is pumping
warm air into the cooler. i cant decide if the trade off is a positive or
negative. perhaps if the battery air pump was placed inside the cooler but
all the
ones i have and seen are not waterproof from the sloshing that iccurs while
driving.

i also put soft plastic plants in the cooler to provide cover and
cushioning.

some fish are just plan sensitive. i was able to bring several inland and
brook silversides home from arkansas... the inlands were collected in a hot
drying pool along the arkansas river... they were the only fish alive in
this big
pool. so much for their "frailty". anyway i got them all the way home,
surviving about 5 days in the cooler. when ready to transfer them i did a
very slow
trickle water change to my established 55 gal aquarium and they all went
belly
up within the 1 to 2 hour process. jeez.

i did get most of the ark fish home ok but i lost my tn shiners and rosefin
shiners from a recent trip. gone for 11 days to arkansas i think 1 or 2 fish
died and the tank collapased from the fouling of the water. as soon as a
fish
dies or looks to die soon... remove it pronto.

dead fish takes all the joy from this hobby.

casper

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