Captain Jimbo
>From: matt ashton <ashtonmj2003-in-yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: nanfa-in-aquaria.net
>To: nanfa-in-aquaria.net
>Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bully stonecats?
>Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 18:23:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I have a millenium 2000 with the oxygen injector about halfway on. I have
>the largest or second largest Optima air pump connected to a sponge filter
>for some extra aeration. I connected this-in-the time of the fish
>arriving...so perhaps thats where something was brought in it sat dry for a
>long time. Ive honestly never been on to test many parameters, much of it
>out of laziness...but this is the worst die off ive ever had in my fish
>keeping expeirence. I had a grass pike for a month too that was fine and
>the plants were thriving. I did feed the grass pike fatheads raised in our
>bioassy lab, but those water parameters are strictly watched, but it doesnt
>say some parasite could not have entered that way. Either way I have half
>or less of what I had after the trip which leaves one boring tank. In a
>seperate email to Dan-in-Newport Aq after he told me that they had found
>nematodes on his fish from the Grand...that its affected all my fish except
>with stonecats, which have diffe
> rent
> skin/scale than the shiners and darters...could this be something not
>allowing the nematode to attach by getting under the scale and then
>affecting the skin if this is the cause? I am far away from the bullying
>stone cats theory now...I did save and preserve my fish that have died in
>methanol (which keeps color far better than ethanol) so im sure whatever
>was killing them is still there.
>
>Todd Crail <farmertodd-in-buckeye-express.com> wrote:I would figure out what
>is wrong first. I don't think it's just a case of
>the violent catfish and the necrotic bacteria. Bacterial infestations like
>that usually don't occur and go hog wild without something being a miss. In
>fact I've seen on many occassions where this same stuff was happening,
>moved
>the animal to a different, thriving tank and the disease goes away, the
>tissue heals. I would look-in-the O2 (you are using that air pump right?)
>and wether you've grounded the tank or not. These are two common issues.
>Water params might be all goofed up. I dunno. I would investigate before I
>got anyone else involved though.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "matt ashton"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:56 AM
>Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bully stonecats?
>
>
> > I lost one greenside and the other has now started to show the same
>symptoms of the whiteish pink tail and caudal fin erosion.-in-this rate ill
>have nothing in a week. I dont have any other tanks so removing and
>treating
>isnt an immediate option. Looks like I need to go collecting again in about
>a week.
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