Re: NANFA-- an article regarding the bait dealer

Steffen Hellner (steffen_at_hellner.biz)
Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:54:48 +0100

Right.

In Europe we are one step ahead already: In Italy the captive maintenance of
wild type species is prohited since October 2003! I mentioned this to an
italian friend who first thought it to be false information. Then he checked
it and it came out to be true.

In France, Spain, Netherlands, Belgium it is already prohibited to maintain
native species. Regardless what subspecies, e.g. it is not allowed to keep
any Salamandra ssp. even if they don4t occur in that state. No S.s. gallaica
from Portugal in Netherlands (though that subspecies is way different from
the S.s. terrestris found there naturally).

To be continued ... for sure! Poor next generations.

Steffen

> Von: "R. W. Wolff" <choupiqu_at_wctc.net>
> Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Datum: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:20:00 -0600
> An: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Betreff: Re: NANFA-- an article regarding the bait dealer
>
> Exactly. It seems to me he is being in trouble more for a crime he didn't
> commit. Dumping exotic species in MN waters. It seems now that with
natural
> resource violations, you are guilty until proven innocent, and guilty of
> things you could do, or are possible to do.
>
> Like having snakeheads. The big case in MD was not even an aquarists. These
> were food fish that became too friendly to eat, albiet ?aquarium? pets for
> that duration. That was not widely reported, since it was more "newsy" to
> make it sound like the next epidemic caused by those crazed aquarists who
> keep terrible cold disgusting ugly creatures that "nobody needs anyways".
> Who's interesting loveable pet is someone else awful horrible pesky menace?
> Yours could be next. Just as the way you do your hobby/business could be
> next.
>
>
> Ray W.
>
>> A "crime" is kind of murder, rape or robbing. This to me was just an
>> illigetim act like wrong parking or speeding. But one can of course put it
>> into the same basket, if he likes. But where then is balance?
>>
>> Steffen
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