Re: NANFA-- Unknown shiner - help please

John Bongiovanni (bongi_at_cox-internet.com)
Thu, 01 May 2003 19:22:18 -0500

No Mystery Mysteryman! You appear to be correct in the ID as a Ironcolor
Shiner. However, according to Page and Burr (peterson's) it is supposed
to be in the Sabine. Interestingly, it states that the Ironcolor is
typically found with weed shiners which is exactly what I found.
Apparently it was a male in its breeding colors. Thanks!

John

Mysteryman wrote:

>John Bongiovanni wrote:
>
>
>>This fish looks very similar to a weed shiner. It was captured in a slough just off the Sabine River in East
>>Texas. The amber color is accurate and when collected the dorsal and caudal were more redish. The weed shiner does not have the amber color. A behavioral difference is that the weed shiner flicks its caudal lobes together to propel itself. The unknown "wags" its caudal.
>>Any Idea what it is?
>>
>>john
>>e information about NANFA, visit our web page, http://www.nanfa.org
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>It looks like an Ironcolor Shiner to me, Notropis chalybaeus. How it got
>in the Sabine river is a mystery, though. They're only supposed to be
>found a few hundred miles further south, in the Colorado river drainage
>near Austin. You should probably have that one verified by the
>authorities. Who knows? If it IS an Ironcolor, you may have made a
>significant discovery.
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