Re: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news

B.G. Granier (bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net)
Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:01:32 -0500

Chip,

Yeah, if I had to get a degree to be "stupid" then No thanks...Duuuuhhhhh!

If the powers that be really cared about our lesser known, non-sport fishes,
then it'd be a different story altogether, even consisting of transplanting
species where they have no historical record of prior existence, but they
bring in revenue! ie: Fishing licenses, fishing tackle and bait sales..

Thanks Chip!

BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Rinehart" <crin_at_glassmaster.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news

> I agree with BG here. It doesn't do a whole lot of good to simply list a
> fish as protected and then do nothing else about it. Dustin and I have
> tried to inform the DNR of some of the locations where we have found
> "protected" species in hopes that they will do something to help preserve
> these fish (and I don't mean just in formalin). ;-) Only time will tell
if
> they use any of the info we have supplied.
>
> Chip in SC
> (Home of the 2004 NANFA Convention.....y'all come)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: B.G. Granier [SMTP:bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net]
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:45 AM
> > To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news
> >
> > Bruce and all.........
> >
> > The thing about merely listing a fish while sitting on their collective
> > rumps, (Fed., State, or whoever) really gets my goat.....
> >
> > If there really _is_ a concern, then damn-it, DO SOMETHING about the
> > situation instead of just waiting until it gets even worse........
> >
> > For now, I've given an Abort mission to the Navy Seals : )
> >
> > Sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, just stating my opinion.
> >
> > What's even worse, is that when a species is placed on any type of list,
> > the
> > blackmarket price just quadrupled, therefore enhancing the risk of
taking,
> > transporting and dealing in "said" species, if you get my drift.........

> >
> > Regards to all who are concerned about our vanishing species and I
didn't
> > really mean to offend anyone.
> >
> > Just another who cares.
> >
> > BG
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Stallsmith" <fundulus_at_hotmail.com>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:16 AM
> > Subject: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news
> >
> >
> > > You're right, the welaka is a drop-dead beautiful fish. I have some
> > flagfin
> > > shiners, signipinnis, which are interesting but they just don't have
> > that
> > > electric oomph of welaka. The status is confusing of welaka, I guess
> > Florida
> > > does consider Special Concern as protected which is all that really
> > mattes
> > > for the legality of collection.
> > >
> > > --Bruce Stallsmith
> > > Huntsville, AL, US of A
> > >
> > > >From: Chip Rinehart <crin_at_glassmaster.com>
> > > >Reply-To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > > >To: "'nanfa_at_aquaria.net'" <nanfa at aquaria.net>
> > > >Subject: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news
> > > >Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:58:44 -0400
> > > >
> > > >I was wanting to get some welaka while down in FL back in Feb and
found
> > > >that
> > > >they were protected there, even though they are only listed as "of
> > Special
> > > >Concern". We didn't find them anyway.
> > > >
> > > >I have managed to get some from another source, as well as some
hubbsi,
> > and
> > > >my thoughts are the welaka are WAY better looking. The fieryblack
> > shiner
> > > >is
> > > >a close second IMO. Rainbow shiners are nice too, but a male
> > fieryblack
> > in
> > > >full breeding coloration is a sight to see.
> > > >
> > > >Again, this is just my opinion.
> > > >
> > > >Chip in SC
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