----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd D. Crail" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Help! Redside Dace Recovery in Ontario
> Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
>
> Spend the money on getting riparian setbacks issued so developers can't
> encroach. Spend the money to get people with large tracts of undistrubed
> land rewarded with tax abatements to encourage them to sign on to keep the
> land out of production in perpetuity. Spend the money getting ag land
> within
> 300 meters of the 30 year flood plain put into retirement.
>
> Riparian easements typically _start_ at 100 meters. Grass buffer strips
> at
> 30 meters at intersection with the 1st order stream, and 10 meters through
> the course of the field. Part of the agreement is to not take it out of
> Ag
> production ever, if at all, to keep the encroachment of impervious
> surfaces
> away and build cooridoors that benefit terrestrial fauna as well.
>
> Etc etc etc... As opposed to putting species in glass boxes and calling it
> "conservation".
>
> Todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Carillio" <darterman-in-cboss.com>
> To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Help! Redside Dace Recovery in Ontario
>
>
>> Part of Todd's comment...
>>
>> "Habitat degredation is the problem everywhere, for most all species in
>> decline... Why not spend the bucks on the habitats that HAVEN'T been
>> degraded, to protect them?"
>>
>> This is true Todd, but at the same time, can we expect the undegraded
> areas
>> to stay their perfect little piece of paradise, if they become surrounded
> by
>> degraded area? The way Ohio is being sprawled upon because of outdated
> home
>> rule laws that perhaps never really took into account development to the
>> current magnitude, what high quality areas we have risk being threatened
> by
>> what is surrounding them. These green protected areas are becoming small
>> islands amidst being surrounded by concrete. Conservation really needs to
>> address both..high quality areas, and the buffers that surround them.
>>
>> Rob C.
>> Mahining River Drainage
>> Ohio, N. A.
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