Re: NANFA-L-- euthanasia - Clove Oil

Todd D. Crail (tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu)
Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:03:33 -0400

Oh yeah, thanks Jase... Vodka, isopropyl alcohol, they all work well as a
solvent.

I usually put the drops of clove oil into a container (usually a coffee cup
or gatorade bottle), add a couple drops of the alcohol, put in a little bit
of water, swirl and then add the remaining amount of water.

You can also store it once mixed. So you can keep your Gatorade Bottle O'
Sleep with your equipment, under the tank, wherever.

Also... I should finish the line lol.
"Much to the bane of some ichthyologists because they don't get the firm
color reaction or extended fins because the fish aren't struggling."

Busy day :)

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jase Roberts" <nanfa_list-in-jaseroberts.net>
To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- euthanasia - Clove Oil

> And if you're going to use clove oil, don't forget the alcohol. Todd and
Peter both reminded us of that several months ago. Clove oil itself isn't
very soluble in water, but dissolving it in a bit of ethanol first
apparently helps it to more thoroughly mix with the water. Peter's note is
copied in Riffles of the latest AC.
>
> -Jase
>
> Todd D. Crail wrote:
> > You can get clove oil at most any health food store or pharmacy and the
fish
> > just go to sleep... Much to the bane of some ichthyologists because they
> > don't get the It's usually much less expensive at a health food store.
> > There's no chemicals to clean up or worry about, and gee, it smells good
too
> > :)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bonnie McNeely" <bnmcneely-in-sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >> MS-222 is expensive to buy. I did not know that Petco was supplying it
> > free. There might be some liability concerns, because it is not without
> > danger if unless used carefully. That is true of other chemicals that
stores
> > supply, however.
> >> If you want to kill them chemically, I would recommend clove oil or
> > carbon dioxide. Formalin is not considered humane by veterinarians, and
the
> > American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists recommends an
> > anesthetic like clove oil, MS-222, or carbon dioxide before immersing
fish
> > in formalin for collections, if possible. Carbon dioxide does
anesthetize,
> > but it suffocates too, if too much is given, and the fish die with their
> > mouths open. So, I'm not sure about humane, or even what that means
with
> > fish (see below).
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> Jase Roberts
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