NANFA-- Off Topic question about Nannostomus "red arch" and Rasbora kalochroma

Tony (anutej_at_loxinfo.co.th)
Sat, 09 Dec 2000 00:48:25 +0700

Is this Nannostomus red arch similar [or the same as] to N. beckfordi varieties
similar to in Baensch's atlas Vol.1 pg. 343 ? In that pic in the atlas the fish
has red color primarly above the horizontal stripe from behind the head to the
base of caudal fin and below the stripe from before the pelvic fin base to the
base of caudal fin. Also is the N. beckfordi that is red is the subspecies N. b.
aripirangensis and is other varieties have lots of red too?
Also, if anyone here have some experience with the clown rasbora Rasbora
kalochroma? I had seen some 3-5 cm rasbora on sale that is red with black blotchs
on the body but has quite big fins. Is the clown rasbora easy to sex? Any other
species similar to it [not counting the tiny maculata]? Anyone bred them?

Tony

Norman Edelen wrote:

> Hello Dave,
>
> That is a sad tale. In my area there are about a dozen shops, and I only
> patronize one regularly, and two infrequently. The fish that surprised you
> are always available at my favorite store. Every week the owner brings in
> fish that I have never seen before. His idea is that he wants to sell fish
> that maintain HIS interest in the hobby. He has 4 or 5 pencils in right
> now, even one undescribed species called Nanostomus sp. "red arch". It is
> an incredible red fish. He also has espei pencils in all the time! It is
> an amazing store!
>
> Norm
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Littlehale <littled_at_cris.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:36 AM
> Subject: LFS WAS Re: NANFA--thatpetplace.com
>
> Moontanman_at_aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 12/1/00 9:55:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > normane_at_edelendoors.com writes:
> >
> > << I tend to disagree with you. The area I live in has seen an amazing
> amount
> > >>
> > You may be right, I want to start my own shop but I see all privately
> owned
> > shops going the way of the dinosaur and it scares me. I can't even
> remember
> > the last time I saw something really interesting in a fish store.
>
> I think variety is the key as has been stated previously. The stores that
> seem to
> do the best are those that have a selection of fw fish above and beyond your
> "bread and butter" fish, a selection of marine fish, corals and a good dry
> goods
> area. In these stores the fish are correctly named and will order just
> about
> anything for you.
>
> Here in the NJ suburbs of Philly there are 5 fish stores. In 4 of those I
> could
> probably name about 85% of the fish they have in stock right from home. The
> 5th
> one, my favorite, has a much better selection of fish which are correctly
> ID'd.
> I went to all 5 stores in one day searching for the flying fox for my
> planted
> tank. I left my favorite for last hoping they would be able to save the
> day. The
> other 4 had the chinese algae eaters which left me scouring those tanks
> hoping
> that maybe some were mixed in accidentally and for the most part the people
> working in these stores are "fish catchers". I purchased two that looked
> promising. The last store had them and they were actually labeled as such.
> Imagine that.
>
> I went back a couple of weeks later looking for some fish for my planted
> tank. I
> didn't know what I wanted; all I knew is that I didn't want any of the usual
> fish
> that every store has. I was pleasantly surprised. I came away with 6
> Threadfin
> Rainbowfish, Iriatherina werneri; they are in this month, Jan 2001, TFH, and
> 6
> Celebes Rainbowfish, Telmatherina ladigesi. Unless I need something in an
> emergency, this is the store I will patronize from now on. I will
> occasionally
> check the others just to see if I can be surprised. I've already inquired
> about
> ordering pencilfish which I've only seen in one store in DE about 4 years
> ago.
>
> If I were a shop owner I would approach it differently. Since I've never
> been in
> this position I don't know how feasible it is, but I would invest time in
> educating my customers by giving seminars on a variety of topics e.g.
> beginning
> fw, planted aquaria, salt water aquaria, corals, breeding fish. The store
> would
> have display tanks on all these topics as to entice people to enjoy other
> aspects
> of the hobby. The necessary equipment and associated dry goods would be on
> hand
> to further encourage participation. Just a thought.
>
> Dave
>
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