Stan Perkins
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Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:30 PM
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> > Do teachers even send kids to the library anymore?
>
> Sure! That's where the computers are. ;)
>
> I would always march my students through sections of the stacks relevant
to
> the project before going to the computers. Training them to ask the right
> questions or seek the correct key words is essential whether on-line or on
> the computer with the library listings or in an index of a book.
>
> Often (as with our famous world cultures feast or "eating your way through
> geography") would start them with a four page framework of what we were
> doing. They would have to provide proper bibliographic data (whether from
a
> magazine, book or Net site), documentation of where the dish was really
> from, preparation, ingredients and so on. Not a hard assignment, but they
> had to prove any claims they made.
>
> I would sic them on the cookbooks by way of preparation. Malcontents were
> sent to the computers. They usually were back in the books in a few
minutes
>
> > When I was in school (in prehistoric times), it was a question of
> plagiarism .
>
> Remember the old saw:
>
> If you copy one source, your are a plagiarist.
>
> If you copy two sources, it's research.
>
> If you copy a whole bunch of sources, you are a professor.
>
> >If you hand wrote an exact statement without quotes and attribution.
Then,
> it
> > became an issue if "Xeroxed" pages were stapled together for a report,
> without
> > proper attribution. Now it is a question of cutting and pasting
> > electronically and publishing as your own, without references.
>
> Yeah. Once got a typed out paper on Abraham Lincoln. When the class was
> dismissed I ambled across the hall to the library, picked up the L volume
of
> the World Book Encyclopedia and found the Lincoln entry. Told the kid it
> would have been easier to photocopy the article for a zero.
>
>
> One came in with an extra credit assignment. It still had the organization
> and highlights of a Net article and the address on the bottom of the
sheet.
> I think she knew she was out of luck when the teacher started guffawing so
> badly he had to wipe his eyes.
>
> My party line was that it initially is ok not to know something. What is
> important is what you do about it.
>
> I'm retired from formal teaching (until I get a better offer). One thing I
> wish I had had time for was a unit on determining the reliability and
> truthfulness of Internet sites.
>
> I have sent them to some of the Internet Hoax sites.
>
> Nostalgically yours,
>
> Scott
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