Re: NANFA-- tadpole madtoms looking amarous.

Todd Crail (farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com)
Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:53:28 -0500

This wasn't breeding color. This was last late summer. If they're in a
breeding coloration now, it's a deep olive back with a lighter more
yellowish belly.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John B" <bongi_at_cox-internet.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- tadpole madtoms looking amarous.

> Thanks for the quick response. The fish you have appears much darker
> than mine but may be in breeding coloration.
> I've noticed that my Freckled Madtoms are much darker if their
> hidy-holes are limited and frequent the rest of the tank.
> john
>
> Todd Crail wrote:
>
> >Hey John,
> >
> >This is the best picture I have of any of them. Man has she grown. I
need
> >a better strobe to get a good shot of them in the habitat. And I'm not
> >going to disturb them right now, if you know what I mean ;)
> >
> >http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/spollick/TadpoleMadtom.jpg
> >
> >Extra news... I watched the lucky two do a little dance all evening...
> >Nudging at each other's anal region and fin with their heads. It was
pretty
> >cool... I'm excited :)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John B" <bongi_at_cox-internet.com>
> >To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:25 AM
> >Subject: Re: NANFA-- tadpole madtoms looking amarous.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Todd,
> >>
> >>Could you do us all a favor and post a photo or two of your Tadpole
> >>Madtoms? I collected a few Madtoms this
> >>past weekend and they don't look like freckled but I haven't seen a good
> >>(profile view) picture of the Tadpole.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>Todd Crail wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well an excavation has begun, and I wonder if it ain't cause they'd
like
> >>>
> >>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>little privacy.
> >>>
> >>>I have two large tadpole madtoms, N. gyrinus, the female of which,
looks
> >>>more like a small bullhead :) They were small last year, but they
sure
> >>>grow fast on krill (since last May when I brought them in my care).
> >>>
> >>>
> >She's
> >
> >
> >>>alway kept to herself under a couple pieces of limestone I stacked at
an
> >>>angle, and never shared the space with any of the 5 madtoms I have in
> >>>
> >>>
> >there
> >
> >
> >>>(the smallest of which sits in a back corner, head down, because all
the
> >>>other good places are taken ;)
> >>>
> >>>This last week, one of the males moved in and they've really moved some
> >>>sand. Little dunes at the front and back. I checked tonight and they
> >>>
> >>>
> >have
> >
> >
> >>>really cut a chasm out in between a rock that must have been buried in
> >>>
> >>>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>>sand and the right piece of their "tent". I can only assume that he
was
> >>>invited in, since she's chased off intruders all the rest of the time.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody bred gyrinus before? I'm assuming they'll use the flat part of
> >>>
> >>>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>>rock to lay eggs and fan them there. They're guarding the cubby like
> >>>
> >>>
> >crazy
> >
> >
> >>>(no one even bothers to go near it now), so I imagine I can get a hatch
> >>>
> >>>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>>then pull some of the fry to another tank. Yes, I'm a low maintenance
> >>>
> >>>
> >kind
> >
> >
> >>>of "breeder". Usually, fry in my care become food, but this looks like
> >>>
> >>>
> >fun
> >
> >
> >>>;)
> >>>
> >>>And granted the eggs are fertile because they really didn't get all
that
> >>>cold. Low temp this winter was 65 F. So I'm not extremely hopeful,
but
> >>>
> >>>
> >it
> >
> >
> >>>does look like all systems go at this point.
> >>>
> >>>And on a completely different continent... I started the stock of the
30
> >>>gallon Amazonian tank this Saturday. The blue rams already laid. Time
> >>>
> >>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>>go look all that up. I can make money at that to pay for my native
habit
> >>>
> >>>
> >;)
> >
> >
> >>>Todd
> >>>
> >>>It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
> >>>http://www.farmertodd.com
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