Steffen
> Von: archimedes_at_bayspringstel.net
> Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Datum: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:13:40 -0500
> An: "nanfa_at_aquaria.net" <nanfa at aquaria.net>
> Betreff: Re: NANFA-- Columbia trip gear
>
> Quoting Todd Crail <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>:
>
>> No argument Steffen, these are good _reasons_ when paired with the law, not
>> rationalizations. :)
>>
>> I was specifically addressing the notion of collection because:
>> "But theeey do it tooooo!"
>
> I don't think anybody is claiming that hellbenders are in decline due to
> overcollecting or by-catch, or that either is contributing to their decline.
> All I hear is that "this could POTENTIALLY affect this", etc. To me that's no
> better than the snake oil salesmen claiming that their miracle-HGH pill makes
> you look and feel 20 years younger because "clinical studies indicate that
> there
> MAY be a benefit..." This is the same mindset that germinated the breast
> implant
> scare, AND PEOPLE FELL FOR IT!
>
> I'll admit I haven't followed the literature on hellbenders, so if the
> evidence
> is there then I stand corrected. But denial based on lack of evidence is not
> the same thing as rationalization. My point was not intended to be "they do
> it,
> therefore so can I" but rather "I don't see any facts showing that removal of
> hellbenders by fishermen is contributing to their extinction, therefore there
> is
> even less rationale behind the suggestion that aquarists are causing harm."
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