Nick Zarlinga
Aquarium Biologist
Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
216.661.6500 ext 4485
><)> -----Original Message-----
><)> From: owner-nanfa_at_aquaria.net
><)> On Behalf
><)> Of R. W. Wolff
><)> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 12:14 AM
><)> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
><)> Subject: Re: NANFA-- r (hellbenders plus!)
><)>
><)>
><)> > Ray, how does this impact you? How is it a pet
><)> peeve? Isn't it better to
><)> > err on the side of caution?
><)>
><)> As I said, fish or other living things do not
><)> follow man made boundaries.
><)> Why is something protected on one side of the man
><)> made boundary, and not the
><)> other? To be honest, many of the examples I come
><)> up with are fish in
><)> Illinois and surrounding states. Illinois is a
><)> unique state, because of how
><)> much it changes from north to south.
><)>
><)> The ends of ranges are usually due to climate or
><)> habitat types changing.
><)> Nothing listing will do will change this. Listing
><)> the fish won't make it
><)> warmer up north, or cooler down south, it will not
><)> lower or raise elevation,
><)> change bed rock and natural habitats formed over
><)> thousands of years. Maybe
><)> this is the only thing that will work, since it is
><)> not likely state borders
><)> will be changed to reflect habitat types and drainages.
><)>
><)> It doesn't impact me, but with these things you
><)> can't touch, can't bother at
><)> all. If that something happens to turn up on your
><)> property or deals with how
><)> you make a living, you might just be out on the street.
><)>
><)> Things like the success with bald eagles and
><)> timber wolves are to be
><)> applauded.. To be fair, big, pretty animals with
><)> general public interest,
><)> but still a process that updated the public was
><)> used. If the public is not
><)> involved, except to be a punching bag when
><)> something goes wrong, then how
><)> can any one expect respect from the public on this
><)> issue? Being a
><)> professional in any field , you can't point at one
><)> part of your job and
><)> expect your boss to be impressed with that to know
><)> you will do that with the
><)> rest of your job as long as you are doing it. You
><)> have to prove yourself
><)> again and again. To be fair again, finally in the
><)> past decade agencies are
><)> working with land owners to help land use work
><)> with preserving correct
><)> habitat. That is a good thing, since it's not very
><)> professional to work
><)> against those you are serving.
><)>
><)> Ray
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