Re: NANFA-- anyone ever toyed with this idea?

Stan Perkins (stanperkins_at_academicplanet.com)
Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:50:33 -0600

I tried the freshwater sandbed but the results were less than what I had
hoped. I would suggest a refugium type mud filter. They seem to work a lot
better. I also built a filter system using water circulated through a tank
containing water lettuce. This also worked but required a lot of light
wattage. It was a great place to grow out fry. Daphnia loved it as well.
Smaller grained sand in a tank is a plus! I have use DYI and fizzie systems
for delivering CO2 both work about the same.

Stan Perkins

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From: "matt ashton" <ashtonmj2003_at_yahoo.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- anyone ever toyed with this idea?

> Yes I agree the organisms and invert part of it wouldnt really be involved
in this set up. I would be combining the planted sand gravel aspects though.
I guess what I am aiming for answers on is the feasibility of this acting as
a more effiecient under gravel fliter / less effiecient than SW plenum.
Again, knowing what Todd Crail uses as a reference and just slightly
altering it is what I would hope to give me this effect.
>
> Really hoping that it would act as something to pack in the bacteria and
their functions in the sand and below in the plenum ( i guess its really a
pseudo plenum ) and aide in filtration because i can't justify what an Ehiem
costs to act as my primary filter, when i can use the in tank improvements
along with a decent canister or power filter.
>
> Joshua L Wiegert <JLW_at_dune.net> wrote:
> I'd think it would be an interesting thing to try -- the sand plennum over
> the planted tank. It would open up an entire new avenue of habitats in the
> aquarium.... Rather than having small gravel, you'd have fine sand which
> would be an interesting tank set up for numerous natives which live over
> sand. Some of these will even fill the role of the marine sand-sifters,
> such as gobies or starfish, helping to keep the sand bed turned and
avoiding
> too much anaerobic area. Keep in mind, though, that part of the reason the
> sand bed works in marine set ups is the live rock -- this provides not
only
> increased area for bacterial growth, but also a substantial source of
> organisms, beyond the bacteria, to help break down wastes. Although in
some
> cases sweetwater counterparts exist (e.g., scuds), you're gonig to have
some
> trouble keeping all but a few in the aquarium. I'd write the FAMA guy,
too,
> and see what his thoughts are. He very oftne mentions sweetwater sandbeds.
>
> JW.
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