Re: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?

njz (njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com)
Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:00:21 -0500

On your way to Todd's, stop by my house real quick and a dipnet will get you
all the muddies you want ;) Sticklebacks too. Then you can go a see Todd's
eroded ditches.

Nick Zarlinga

"If we ignore nature.....maybe it'll go away."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?

> You need to come up to Toledo Mike (yes, this is an open invitation :)
>
> The ditches of the western Oak Openings (formerly huge spanses of treeless
> wet prairie) are loaded with them (mudminnows). We've gotten them when
> there's ice (you just stand on the ice and they shoot out on top of it and
> then you grab em when the water starts going back off the ice) when there
> isn't ice, and um, well I've found them in barely a trickle of water all
> wrapped in algae late September :) Dipnets, seines... Whatever floats
your
> boat. You stomp in vegetation and they appear in your snare. You will
find
> as many as you need.
>
> Oh and once it warms up... It get's nuts. I've done up to 13 species from
> one ditch (spawning orangethroats included!) in a trip (mid June).
They've
> kind of become the surrogate headwater, I think, and I'm going to really
> explore them this year. Grass pickerel, least darters... It will become
> really neat once we get the Secor dam down on the Ottawa River/Tenmile
Creek
> segment. I wouldn't be suprised to find spawning pike and perch.
>
> I'm hoping to sample longear sunfish, spotted sucker and western creek
> chubsuckers in the same ditches this year with some more extensive efforts
> during the spawn season. I guess you'd call that my "goal".
>
> Anyway... it's the same place where this attrocity is comitted once the
> rains come... http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/misc/OhMy1.jpg Bastid even
> irrigates the field in the summer. Uh... Don't try and grow corn on
shallow
> sand over clay huh?
>
> That is a VERY deep ditch btw... We won't be even going near it when it's
> this high. That water is HAULING.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Sandel" <kwksand_at_yahoo.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:12 PM
> Subject: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?
>
>
> > Us OSU folks went out this weekend to collect in some streams near
Buckeye
> Lake.(east-central Ohio) Not too much excitement yet. Here's the list
> > Central stonerollers-fat and happy
> > Blackstripe topminnows
> > Silverjaw minnows
> > Sand shiners
> > Striped shiners
> > Bluntnose minnows
> > Lots of HUGE creek chubs
> > One Rockbass
> > Johnny darters
> > Fantail darters, some pretty colorful
> > Surprisingly, no suckers, in what appeared to be very suitable habitat,
> especially for Hogsuckers. Maybe they're still in deeper waters. We will
> soon be looking for central mudminnows, does anyone have any tips or
tricks
> for efficiently catching these guys? I have been unsuccessful on solo
> seining efforts, in known localities. Maybe minnow traps?
> > Mike
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