Re: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?

Todd Crail (farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com)
Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:34:22 -0500

Agh! He threw the stickleback ace!

Bah. His mudminnows are puny. We get big brooders that look like "sewer
trout" with fins. ;)

----- Original Message -----
From: "njz" <njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?

> On your way to Todd's, stop by my house real quick and a dipnet will get
you
> all the muddies you want ;) Sticklebacks too. Then you can go a see
Todd's
> eroded ditches.
>
> Nick Zarlinga
>
>
> "If we ignore nature.....maybe it'll go away."
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?
>
>
> > You need to come up to Toledo Mike (yes, this is an open invitation :)
> >
> > The ditches of the western Oak Openings (formerly huge spanses of
treeless
> > wet prairie) are loaded with them (mudminnows). We've gotten them when
> > there's ice (you just stand on the ice and they shoot out on top of it
and
> > then you grab em when the water starts going back off the ice) when
there
> > isn't ice, and um, well I've found them in barely a trickle of water all
> > wrapped in algae late September :) Dipnets, seines... Whatever floats
> your
> > boat. You stomp in vegetation and they appear in your snare. You will
> find
> > as many as you need.
> >
> > Oh and once it warms up... It get's nuts. I've done up to 13 species
from
> > one ditch (spawning orangethroats included!) in a trip (mid June).
> They've
> > kind of become the surrogate headwater, I think, and I'm going to really
> > explore them this year. Grass pickerel, least darters... It will become
> > really neat once we get the Secor dam down on the Ottawa River/Tenmile
> Creek
> > segment. I wouldn't be suprised to find spawning pike and perch.
> >
> > I'm hoping to sample longear sunfish, spotted sucker and western creek
> > chubsuckers in the same ditches this year with some more extensive
efforts
> > during the spawn season. I guess you'd call that my "goal".
> >
> > Anyway... it's the same place where this attrocity is comitted once the
> > rains come... http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/misc/OhMy1.jpg Bastid
even
> > irrigates the field in the summer. Uh... Don't try and grow corn on
> shallow
> > sand over clay huh?
> >
> > That is a VERY deep ditch btw... We won't be even going near it when
it's
> > this high. That water is HAULING.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Sandel" <kwksand_at_yahoo.com>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:12 PM
> > Subject: NANFA-- Collecting in Ohio-Mudminnows?
> >
> >
> > > Us OSU folks went out this weekend to collect in some streams near
> Buckeye
> > Lake.(east-central Ohio) Not too much excitement yet. Here's the list
> > > Central stonerollers-fat and happy
> > > Blackstripe topminnows
> > > Silverjaw minnows
> > > Sand shiners
> > > Striped shiners
> > > Bluntnose minnows
> > > Lots of HUGE creek chubs
> > > One Rockbass
> > > Johnny darters
> > > Fantail darters, some pretty colorful
> > > Surprisingly, no suckers, in what appeared to be very suitable
habitat,
> > especially for Hogsuckers. Maybe they're still in deeper waters. We will
> > soon be looking for central mudminnows, does anyone have any tips or
> tricks
> > for efficiently catching these guys? I have been unsuccessful on solo
> > seining efforts, in known localities. Maybe minnow traps?
> > > Mike
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