Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest

BG Granier (shinerscoop_at_bellsouth.net)
Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:33:35 -0600

Thanks for the info Tom!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Watson" <onefish2fish_at_comcast.net>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest

> BG
>
> The Olympic Mudminnow is found naturally to an elevation of 135 meters.
One
> population has been found at an elevation of 240 meters but these fish
were
> found in a location outside the fishes native range and are believed to be
> the result of a human attempt to extend the fishes range.
>
> Tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BG Granier" <shinerscoop_at_bellsouth.net>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:32 AM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest
>
>
> > Ray,
> >
> > You brought to mind another question, what is the highest elevation that
> the
> > Olympia mudminnow (hubbsi <?) are found?
> >
> > BG
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "R. W. Wolff" <choupiqu_at_wctc.net>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest
> >
> >
> > > I always wondered why mudminnows don't range further north. You can
find
> > > them here, and sometimes sticklebacks ( brook) in the middle of the
> woods
> > in
> > > shallow ponds that almost certainly freeze solid. Of course ground
> > currents
> > > and springs are common in these areas. Regardless, they can hack the
> cold
> > > sure enough.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I wonder why central mudminnows don't do well
further
> > > south. They seem to handle heat just fine, and trout have been stocked
> > much
> > > further south. Muds seem to disperse in spring floods, and I would
have
> to
> > > think over the years they would have made their way around from the
> > > Mississippi River up some tributaries further south.
> > >
> > > Probably just expecting too much of this fantastic little fish.
> > > Incidentally, I like to call them pygmy pike. I found a common name
for
> > them
> > > in the old Shedd aquarium book I just got from an older friend, yes
the
> > book
> > > with the albino bowfin in it. It called mudminnows mud-trout. It
really
> > > touted these little guys. Kind of neat reading that old literature and
> how
> > > views of certain fish have changed.
> > >
> > > Ray W.
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