Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- So much for education...
Ipchay61-in-aol.com
Date: Tue Dec 28 2004 - 05:45:10 CST
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In a message dated 12/27/2004 10:34:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, James Smith <jbosmith-in-gmail.com> writes:
>I really think many of you just need to get over yourselves. I mean
>you do realize that anyone who wants to know where a certain fish is
>can just call the appropriate state agency and ask them? Do you really
>think they go around shocking everything and filling out survey forms
>for nothing?
Jim,
Here in SC the DNR probably won't give out the info to just anyone. Ours, like many state depts of Natural Resources are underfunded and facing more cutbacks. Dustin and I have managed to establish a good working relationship with our DNR and in turn they provide us with the occansional site data, or access we need. So far we've discovered several sites for protected fish species that were previously thought to be extirpated and may have possibly discovered two new mudpuppy species. DNA studies on the Necturus are currently underway.
>
>Honestly, what kind of organization that is supposed to promote North
>American fish would tell people they were on their own finding a site
>that tells you where to find the same fish? I have to say I'm glad
>that not everyone shares the same high horse ideas or all North
>American fish could just as well be written off. Don't you stop to
>think about the chance that maybe somewhere some kid is turning to
>this list as a resource because something sparked their interest? What
>kind of message does "It's available via search engines" send?
I have reduced the number of trip reports that I've written and when I do write them I give site location numbers that I assign myself. I also say that if anyone would like further site location info, to email me off list. I do this mainly because of one person who has visited several sites I've listed in the past and trashed them, including a site that is now protected by the state (he visited the site AFTER I told him it was protected and off limits - this person is NOT a NANFA member but does claim to be).
>
>I have a membership check sitting here that was going to be mailed in
>once my paycheck cleared, but this whole topic has left such a bad
>taste in my mouth that I've decided to tear it up and give the money
>to an educational program instead. I was rather looking forward to the
>newsletter too.
This is your choice but I really think you've misinterpreted what some folks are saying.
Chip in SC
>
>Happy New Year,
>Jim
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: Sat Jan 01 2005 - 12:42:07 CST