Re: NANFA-L-- perils of Fla collecting

dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:47:36 -0500

If I remember correctly, bee researchers originally predicted that
Africanization would only proceed to about central Texas and
equivalent agricultural zones based on mainly speculation due to the
tropical origin of the strain. Later, experimental work showed that
hives could do fine-in-subzero temperatures. Remember that bees occur
as far north as flowering plants do, which means Greenland and other
arctic lands.

David L. McNeely, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
Langston University; P.O. Box 1500
Langston, OK 73050; email: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
telephone: (405) 466-6025; fax: 405) 466-3307
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----- Original Message -----
From: Drummond Howard <drummondhoward-in-hotmail.com>
Date: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:35 am
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- perils of Fla collecting
> The link below shows a map from the USDA of where these bees have
> been found
> and when. It shown that they now live in most of the Southwest
> and a good
> part of Florida.
>
> There is no way to tell with out sending in 30 to 50 bees in a jar
> of
> alcohol for examination.
>
> http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=11059&page=6
>
> From my experience, working with bees in Florida for many years,
> That is not
> the behavior I would expect from a swarm of european honey bees.
>
> Drummond Howard
> Gaithersburg, Maryland
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
> >Reply-To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> >To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
> >Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- perils of Fla collecting
> >Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:08:05 -0500
> >
> >Actually, Africanized bees have not just appeared in Texas a few
> >times. A number of people have been seriously injured and a couple
> >have died from Africanized bees in the state. Essentially, all the
> >bees in the southern half the state are Africanized. Several years
> >ago, when the impact of honey bee declines around the country was
> >being noticed, a bee expert for the Texas A&M USDA Extention Service
> >made the statement in a seminar-in-UT Brownsville, where I was
> then a
> >professor, that S. Texas doesn't have that problem (the
disappearance
> >of honey bees), because Africanized bees are resistant to the
> >pathogens and parasites that are causing it, and Africanized bees
are
> >all we have.
> >
> >I don't know about Florida.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >David L. McNeely, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
> >Langston University; P.O. Box 1500
> >Langston, OK 73050; email: dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
> >telephone: (405) 466-6025; fax: 405) 466-3307
> >home page http://www.lunet.edu/mcneely/index.htm
> >
> >"Where are we going?" "I don't know, are we there yet?"
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Mysteryman <bestfish-in-alaweb.com>
> >Date: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:23 am
> >Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- perils of Fla collecting
> > > What makes you think that they were killer bees, anyway, the fact
> > > that they
> > > attacked you?
> > > It IS the tail end of swarm season, and you did kick their
nest...
> > > what
> > > would you have expected them to do?
> > >
> > > I have a beehive in my house. They live in my bathroom walls and
> > > attic. The
> > > bathroom window is a nifty little spot where I can observe
> them. I
> > > know they
> > > aren't africanized, but I still know better than to try to run
the
> > > lawn
> > > mower anywhere near the bathroom.
> > >
> > > I suppose the prudent thing to do is to alert the local
> > > authorities to the
> > > presence of the swarm and report the incident, but don't go
> > > hitting the
> > > panic button just yet. Africanized bees have appeared in Texas a
> > > few times
> > > and I think maybe in Florida, so while I doubt that these are
such
> > > bees, it
> > > is a possibility.
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