Re: NANFA-- Quantative Sampling?

njz (njz_at_clevelandmetroparks.com)
Mon, 7 Apr 2003 22:56:49 -0400

It is very well known by all the fishermen that you need to fish at the base
of the low-head dam at the RT 82 bridge of the Cuyahoga river. It is the
first impediment from the lake which is about 10 miles down stream and you
can catch just about any of the lake fish, including a 50 lb sturgeon a year
or so ago. Fish on upstream from the dam and you don't catch much of
anything. That's proof enough for me!

Nick Zarlinga

"If we ignore nature.....maybe it'll go away."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Quantative Sampling?

> They're hypothesizing that the dam prevents certain species that used to
> migrate the up this stream have been prevented from doing such (walleye,
> white bass, pike, drum, gar, suckers). They would like to see what fauna
> exist above and below the dam in all water stage condition. The student
> feels the species can only make passage in extreme conditions when the
river
> is at such a stage that the dam is submerged under water level, and this
has
> prevent many species from utitlizing an otherwise fine stream nursery.
>
> To test this extreme condition, they felt that sampling the floodplains
> adjacent above and below during flooding might lend an insight into who is
> where when and why. This section of stream used to be nice rocky,
trickling
> brook with intact floodplains. However, someone got the idea to dump the
> University of Toledo and the Village of Ottawa Hills right in around all
> this... So, you know... The usual story... But I'll not villanize them...
> You should see it 6 miles further downstream where it runs right by the
old
> Jeep plant. Yikes. Can you say mercury and arsenic bath?
>
> We already discussed a bit about how stream quality increases the further
> you go upstream... We're going to work around all of that and help his
> student understand that non-point specific pollution is *really* the
factor
> she might hone in on, but more of that later... I wouldn't be abhorrent to
> her getting attention to remove that stinkin' dam anyway :)
>
> Channelized... When I say channelized, I'm talking about attempting to
> straighten and deepen the stream channel so water is more contained to the
> streambed in heavy flow periods (as little to do with flood plains as
> possible), and is rushed out of there as quickly as possible.
>
> Famous examples would be the Mississippi through southern Louisiana or
what
> they call the Los Angeles "River".
>
> Thanks for your questions and interest guys :)
>
> Todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay DeLong" <thirdwind_at_att.net>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- Quantative Sampling?
>
>
> > >It appears I'm going to be working with a professor and his grad
students
> at
> > >the University of Toledo a sampling study they're doing on the effect
of
> a
> > >low head dam on species distribution (Thank you Dr. Ceas, this could
turn
> > >out *seriously* cool :)
> >
> > Todd,
> > What do you mean by studying the effects of a dam on species
distribution?
> >
> > Second, are they looking at any species in particular?
> >
> > --
> > Jay DeLong
> > Olympia, WA
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